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    xristopha is offline Senior Member Regular
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    I don't know how true it is but apparently Masashi Kishimoto already knows how he wants Naruto to end as for bleach i don't know. anyone else got an idea?

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    Ringmaster is offline Senior Member Regular
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    About a year back Kishimoto stopped writing for a couple of weeks to figure out where he was going to be heading with the story.

    Notice how the elemental thing just came out of nowhere? Find it odd that we had no idea that sasuke was a fire type a long time ago? That's because he wasn't.. That's a new part of the story.. something that they came up with as they were still writing.

    Bleach.. Everything since the Soul Society arc has seemed half assed.. i really see no point in even discussing it.

    I'm not trying to change your view, just pointing out what things seem like to me.

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    Well if there is anything we can agree on, it's the thing I just spotted in that post.

    As far as I'm concerned, the element system was made up on the spot and pushed into the story against its will; thus, causing a tiny ripple of history revising on previous events that seriously downgraded my view of it for a while.

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    Feanor is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    I mostly ignore the elemental system.
    It really doesn't change anything and isn't even needed.
    But I think Naruto is heading somewhere.
    You can't say it wasn't just becuase Kishi took a break. If you write/draw a manga on a weekly basis for several years you sometimes need a brake.

    With Bleach, I have my doubts. I read it and I can imagine that Kubo is taking it somewhere (mainly because I can't imagine that he makes it up on the spot). But it's not done as good (story-wise) as One Piece or even Naruto.
    To me it's has degraded to pure fighting without anything else happening for quite a while. It has been fighting scenes upon fighting scene for over a year now. I hope he'll stop that and adds some story and character development and interaction soon.
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    Naruto as a anime, sucks balls. When they stopped doing fillers and started dragging the story...Please,Bleach could never be that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henchy432 View Post
    Naruto as a anime, sucks balls. When they stopped doing fillers and started dragging the story...Please,Bleach could never be that bad.
    One day, you will rue those words! I have fortold it so!

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    The early part of both the Bleach and Naruto animes were good to me. I still consider the Naruto anime episodes 1-94ish quite good, and most of the initial Naruto series (exluding the third of the episodes that were fillers) was quite good. Shippuden, on the other hand, is a 100% crap.

    Bleach also had a great start until the fillers started up. Then it became Naruto, but not nearly as bad.
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    I don't think Bleach has become half as bad as Naruto in terms of anime. Bleach is still quite watchable IMO as long as you just move the slider on your video player of choice past the recap portion.

    As much as I WANT to watch Shippuuden it's borderline impossible alot of the time. Seriously, that 1-hour super special bridge fight spent at least a full third of the episode doing shot/reverse shot of Naruto grinding his teeth and Orochimaru's hair flapping gayfully in the breeze. I don't know why they didn't just decide to make it "30-minute super special with minimal fluff!!" That would've been alot more watchable.

    IMO though, all anime that is based on manga is automatically handicapped if they stick to the manga thoroughly. They're two totally different mediums and you can't convert the pacing at any kind of X chapters:1 episode kind of consistency. That's one thing I think Naruto did correctly once(IIRC) when instead of dragging out the VotE fight they added things to it instead to fill the episodes out; actual unique fighting bits instead of reaction shots and having Team Guy fight their doubles for 20 minutes in badly animated loops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sansafro187 View Post
    That's one thing I think Naruto did correctly once(IIRC) when instead of dragging out the VotE fight they added things to it instead to fill the episodes out; actual unique fighting bits instead of reaction shots and having Team Guy fight their doubles for 20 minutes in badly animated loops.
    That is what killed it for me.

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    Bleach anime has sucked since the end of SS arc. And that's a while back. It's just not the same anymore.

 

 
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