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    chinsee is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    perhaps he's not trying to lure ichigo and co, but luring the more troublesome captains?

    I mean byakuya with his bankai can make an attack that will hit everyone, it may not hurt them much given how powerful some of them are, but it may be enough to give the other captains an opening.

    Kenpachi is well... kenpachi, he's a crazy bastard, and no matter how strong aizen is, I doubt he wants to fight a wild unpredictable person like kenpachi.

    Mayuri, the sick scientist with the poisonous bankai. All mayuri has to do is spread his poison and aizen's followers would if not die at least be incapacitated for some time.

    Unohana, obvious.

    The way I see it, he led ichigo and co to HM to draw the most troublesome captains there so that when he attacks, he'll only have to fight the captains that are easier to handle.

    Hitsu? insect
    Koma? insect
    Soifon? probably not an insect, but she doesn't have any abilities that would give him trouble. Sure she only needs to hit twice in the same spot to instantly kill, but if she can't actually hit him with it, it doesn't pose a problem. I mean, based on what we've seen Aizen is incredibly fast, that or he uses his shikai to trick people into seeing him in one place when he's actually not there, either way he should be able to avoid her attacks without too much trouble.
    Kyouraku? Seems strong, but he doesn't seem like the type to have overly wonderful or unfair special abilities.
    Ukitake? same here, plus he's sickly.
    Yama? definitely strong, but once again, doesn't seem like the type with special abilities. And then there's the fact that his power seems to hurt people around him indiscriminately, so if he went full on he might hurt more of the SS people than Aizen's people.
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    I'm pretty sure aizen could kill kenpachi quite quickly...

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    Aizen can kill every captain without bankai.
    They all saw his relased shikai, so he controls everyone with perfect hypnosis.


    The only one capable to fight him in reality is Urahara. Hes not influenced by his hypnosis and is strong enough to fight him on par.

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    About luring Ichigo out part. It's only idea based on how shonen tend to resolve and on the fact, that spoiler suggests luring Ichigo out. So we all know Ichigo is special, he's not the only Vizard but I bet my monthly income that sooner or later he will turn out to be something even better than your average Vizard. Knowing Aizen obseesion on gaining power he could lure Ichi in HM in order to avoid him dying in some random and pointless battle so he could be dissected or whatever by Aizen when Hougyoku awakens in order to create same power for Aizen. It's blind guess but considering levels difference between Ichigo and Espada 4 and higher than main character is still only a minor obstacle and as such isn't worth to be lured for any puprose than becoming a specimen in evil scheme. For egzample as one above or maybe becoming sacrfice to create a key or whatever. Either way if it is so that Ichigo was lured out that means Aizen needs him alive for now. And why is not known yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    Aizen can kill every captain without bankai.
    They all saw his relased shikai, so he controls everyone with perfect hypnosis.


    The only one capable to fight him in reality is Urahara. Hes not influenced by his hypnosis and is strong enough to fight him on par.
    I'm sorry, but why do you state that urahara could fight aizen on par? Was it stated in the manga that urahara is immune to aizen's hypnosis? I don't think that it was suggested at all (CMIIW). As far as I know, the only person that is not affected by aizen's hypnosis is Tousen and he is on aizen's side, so we won't see him fighting against aizen. Even if tousen betray aizen, I don't think tousen could fight aizen on par.
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    Aizen can kill every captain without bankai.
    They all saw his relased shikai, so he controls everyone with perfect hypnosis.
    He doesn't "control" anyone. He can create ILLUSIONS with his sword.
    And I don't think you get affected for the rest of your life, I'm sure they studied on the works of his shikai, to counter, or get out of the illusion.
    And he said, you need to SEE it being released to get affected.. so just shutting your eyes renders his shikai useless.

    I also could swear I posted here, anyway:

    I really don't see why Aizen would go out of his way to avoid a direct confrontation with Ichigo.
    Aizen couldn't have known that SS would send people to help, so Aizen were planing on trapping ichigo alone, or ichigo and CO.
    For that Kagagura city has more then enough to replace, Issin, Uryuu's dad, Urahara, Yourichi, Glass dude, and all Vaizard team.
    And the story of trapping is flawed by itself, if you can't open a gate to Kagagura city how come Aizen can? he is like evil gate open? where only evil beings can pass?
    We got a mad scientist there with access to a lab fully stocked, they are sure to get out there on some perfect timing or something
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    don't think that will work. aizen stated that you only need to see his shinkai techinque only ONCE to be trapped in it and the it is perament, whether he draws the sword or not. Also it is an techinque that even the 4th squad captain had trouble breakining out of(when she viewed the the clone when he "died").
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    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    I also could swear I posted here, anyway:

    I really don't see why Aizen would go out of his way to avoid a direct confrontation with Ichigo.
    Aizen couldn't have known that SS would send people to help, so Aizen were planing on trapping ichigo alone, or ichigo and CO.
    For that Kagagura city has more then enough to replace, Issin, Uryuu's dad, Urahara, Yourichi, Glass dude, and all Vaizard team.
    And the story of trapping is flawed by itself, if you can't open a gate to Kagagura city how come Aizen can? he is like evil gate open? where only evil beings can pass?
    We got a mad scientist there with access to a lab fully stocked, they are sure to get out there on some perfect timing or something

    Primo: As I mentioned in my post above - if someone is not a threat to consider than trapping that person means only two things. 1st - That person will bo of some use later on as a sacrifice/power source/whatever. 2nd - Author needs as Deus Ex Machina which will enable either dynamic entry in a last moment when the trap is finally brokan (while Evil Purpose remains unknown) or will save Main Character life from the hecatomb which is to proceed in his hometown (or kingdom or whatever).

    Secundo: Evil gate thingy. Well we must consider that the place is rather spacious so it takes time to get to gate that Aizen made (not to mention he can close it after getting through). There is also visible difference between gates Uruhara made and those from Aizem. It is the shape of them that is different. Considering similiar gates to those of Aizen were made by Menos when he escaped SS it could be that their source is of Hollow origin. It is pure speculation though.
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