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    Default Chad, Ishida, Tatsuki, Yuzu, Karin, Orihime... As Shinigami?

    I've bought this up before but the possible deaths of Chad and Rukia have inclined me to dedicate a new thread to it. KT explicitly stated that souls with high spirit density and high reiatsu are the ones who become shinigami. When their human bodies die, they end up in SS (unless they become hollows), where things like hunger cause them to be noticed and if they're strong enough they can join the Gotei 13.

    Now that being said, as Chad, Ishida, Tatsuki, Yuzu, Karin, and Orhime are all living human beings - wouldn't it make the most sense that when they died they become shinigamis? I think theres a major plot hole with the death of Ishida's grandfather as in Soul Society he should not have retained his Quincy powers, unless of course... yeah. Assuming its not and giving myself some mental latitude, if the six of them could retain their human abilities as dead souls and still become shinigami, wouldn't that make for quite the creative and logical power up once they've reached the limits of their human abilities?

    Let us not forget that its still entirely possible for Urahara to force them to become shinigami in the same way he did with Ichigo.

    I dunno, I think this is quite an exploitable situation for the mangaka if he chooses to use it. Nothing would make me break out laughing harder than Chad's ban-kai. Although the possibility of Yoruichi training Tatsuki (an already gifted martial artist) makes me drool...
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    that's quite an interesting idea... but no one knows what happens to a human if it dies in a spiritual world. quite possibly, chad is gone (until saved/healed/resurrected).

    i could see that plot device being used, if karakura town is annihilated with the opening of the SS kingdom. Chad with bankai would be pretty interesting - i wonder if he'll still have his shield ? then he'd be like ishida, who has both a mock-shield and a mock-sword

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    As cool as that would be I think that some type of cleansing (so to speak) happens after death as the residents of Soul Society have no memory of their lives before Soul Society.

    And Ishida being a shinigami would just be retarded...


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    No cleansing. Remember Hisana? She knew how she died and thats why she wanted to make up for it in the afterlife with Rukia.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    I think they could theoretically all become shinigamis if they died like you (SD) said, but I'm not sure it would serve as a good enough powerup, because if anyone/anything manages to push Ichigo & Co to the limits of death, then they're probably stronger than shinigami, who Aizen said had limits on their power. I guess if the shinigami powers compound with their powers from when they were alive, it might make them stronger, but dying might take away that power they had on earth as well. For example, I don't know if Chad would retain his weird hollowish affinities.
    And that kind of power-up wouldn't be an immediate process either, since they would all have to get their zampakutous and do the whole zampakutou training deal before any of that shinigami training becomes useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    No cleansing. Remember Hisana? She knew how she died and thats why she wanted to make up for it in the afterlife with Rukia.
    I was under the impression that Hisana wanted to make up for her abandoning of Rukia in Soul Society and not for something that occurred prior to their entrance into Soul Society.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mystic_guard_sinoel View Post
    I was under the impression that Hisana wanted to make up for her abandoning of Rukia in Soul Society and not for something that occurred prior to their entrance into Soul Society.
    That's the way I understand it too. Hisana couldn't deal with the stress of living (figuratively speaking, of course ) in the Soul Society slums and having to take care of her baby sister as well, so she abandoned Rukia and ran away. Her reason for searching for Rukia as well as having her become a part of the Kuchiki family was because of the guilt and regret of abandoning her, not because of something that happened in their life.

    As for how she found Rukia in Soul Society when almost nobody ever finds their real family... plot hole? Same goes for how Ishida's grandfather still had his Quincy powers after death.


    As for Chad, I think it would be awesome if he became a Shinigami. We know that there are only two Shinigami with the "dual" zanpakutou types (the two captains, Kyouraku and Ukitake, if I'm remembering their names correctly), so I'm guessing that anything other than a single zanpakutou is rare. In that case, I'm hoping Chad becomes the only shinigami with a sword/shield combination zanpakutou, if it's possible.

    I wouldn't want him to lose his life as a human though... so I guess the only way to achieve that would be to get transformed using Urahara's method.

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    The way I understood it was Hisana allowed Rukia to die in the real world because of her own inability to look after her. When they died Hisana joined Byakuya and her dying wish was that he use his power as nobility to scour SS for Rukia and raise her in Hisana's stead as royalty to make up for Hisana abandoning her. No plot holes included. I'm assuming soon after Hisana arrived she met Byakuya, and a century or so later, he finds the now teenaged looking Rukia trying to join the Gotei 13, and adopts her.

    BTW, there is always the reverse situation. If they six died and became hollows and removed their masks to become arancarr... i mean shit anything is possible.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    O.o Wow, that'd sure be interesting. I mean, who won't think it's interesting?! Well...yeah probably, but I mean them as shinigamis and not as shinigamis are probably whole different stories. ^_^ I'd wonder, but then that'd just kill the original purpose of the story. lol. I'd wonder though.


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    Your sig is way too fucking big. Reduce it or face oblivion.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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