Thread: Wonderwyce || Switching Sides

Primero, did anyone catch if Wonderwyce was an espada? I know he's not in any of the pictures of them but it makes no sense that using Hyogoku and him being the most recent arancarr that he not at least be stronger than Yammy. Urahara certainly took him more seriously than he took Yammy and it was already stated that Yammy's position as number 10 was possibly in jeopardy once his arm was removed. Could Wonderwyce's promotion have been held up by Ichigo & Co.'s invasion?

Segundo, Who do you think is going to join Ichigo & Co from the Espada? I think theres (as usual in shounen manga) a good chance one of the remaining espada doesn't agree with something Aizen is doing or just doesn't like him (i.e. Grimmjow).... Traitors anyone? I've got my hopes on Halibel as she seems the least interested in fighting.

I'm hoping for Ulquiorra to switch sides. Since he seems to be the loyalist espada to Aizen, would be a nice twist for the story.

Strongest bet right now as for me is GrimJaw. He's Zaraki type character, he was just now saved by Ichigo. Moreover his fight against Uliquiorra will be considered treachery so he has little choice.

On the other hand there's hint of Uliquiorras sympathy towards Orihime as well as it'd be just too cool for him to switch sides (and perhaps train Ichigo).

For the ones who won't do a quick switch of colours there are Apollo and Noitora. Those two are too hmmm let's say evil (yet this word doesn't totally suits me here) to do so. They just don't have any base for treachery while both Ulq and GJ personalities leave gap for such twist.

Rest of the espada are big question mark but still I wouldn't expect and sudden sway of loyalities among them, at least not in this one arc.

Originally Posted by StealDragon

Primero, did anyone catch if Wonderwyce was an espada? I know he's not in any of the pictures of them but it makes no sense that using Hyogoku and him being the most recent arancarr that he not at least be stronger than Yammy. Urahara certainly took him more seriously than he took Yammy and it was already stated that Yammy's position as number 10 was possibly in jeopardy once his arm was removed. Could Wonderwyce's promotion have been held up by Ichigo & Co.'s invasion?

We really don't know how their command structure works. I mean, where the hell did Luppi come from? Wonderweiss doesn't exactly seem interested in fighting though, that in itself could be enough to disqualify him I guess. It's also pretty strange how his intelligence is sort of unclear, he can understand speech and follow orders (tells Aizen his name, went along on the raid), but otherwise he seems to have the mind of 4 year old.

Wonderwyce is strange. If it's true that an arrancar's intelligence is proportional to how human they look, then that would imply that Wonderwyce is more intelligent than Yami since his body is much more human. Also, when Urahara first encountered Wonderwyce, we saw the ever famous 'eye popping' shocked expression whereas with Yami, Urahara was pretty much in control the whole time. So we've yet to see what Wonderwyce is truly capable of...

Well, we've already seen some arrancar side with Ichigo's crew (Nell, Nell's friends). If Grimmjaw doesn't die, which is now getting increasingly unlikely what with him having a backstory and being saved by Ichigo, he'd have to at least abandon the espada if not outright join Ichigo, just to survive.

Wonderwyce is unstable.. he may be strong but he is plain nuts, thats a hinderance.

And I'd bet on the Old geezer as the one that wouldn't agree with the plans.
In the end they have to destroy their food source (kaguhara* city)

* = I'm lazy not going to look it up.

Perhaps being plain nuts is what happens when you're first made into an arrancar...after all, it's a great change from being a hollow, to forcibly (as that's what the hougyoko does) obtain shinigami powers...

Ichigo himself was pretty unstable with his hollow side before his Vaizard training...yet this process was much more gradual, with the hollow beginning off as very submissive to growing dominance before being forcibly submitted. And during that forced submission, Ichigo was insane.

Originally Posted by adonai

We really don't know how their command structure works. I mean, where the hell did Luppi come from? Wonderweiss doesn't exactly seem interested in fighting though, that in itself could be enough to disqualify him I guess. It's also pretty strange how his intelligence is sort of unclear, he can understand speech and follow orders (tells Aizen his name, went along on the raid), but otherwise he seems to have the mind of 4 year old.

Yeah, Luppi threw me for a loop (no pun intended) If the espada numbers are ranked by strength how the hell did Luppi get to be number 6? Shouldn't number 7 become number 6?

Originally Posted by Viraten

Ichigo was insane.

That's debatable. It seemed to me that his body was just running on hollow instincts with his soul being distracted from the inside.

I still think wonderwyce is just a pure hollow-minded (no pun here either) type of Arrancar. He senses a strong opponent, who arguably would have made a great meal, and immediately charged him.

Beyond the fact that Wanderweiss (as spelt in my copy of the chaps...) managed to frighten Urahara without even drawing his Zanpakuto, this Arrancar is an unknown quantity... I'm not going to bother making projections right now.

As for switching sides, Grimmjaw is the obvious candidate here. Of course, Kubo could twist a bit and have someone else defect.

Personally I'd like to see Stark decide Aizen's plans are all damnable, but I really don't see that happening; he strikes me more as the preposterously strong antagonist who, with great reluctance and regret, devastates everyone until the introduction of a new protagonist or an upgrade to a current one.