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    MadDogMike is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpool View Post
    ^All arrancars we have seen so far besides Ground fisher where created by the hyogoku
    No, I'm pretty sure he was right. The privaron espada were dropped from their ranks because they weren't as powerful as the Arrancars created with the Hougyoku, from what I remember. I'm not at home so I can't check for the exact words used, but I'm 99% sure that they weren't created using the Hougyoku (since Aizen only attained it recently).

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    The Privaron (Spanish: deprived) are former Espada who have lost their rank and are assigned a three-digit number. Being former Espada, they are far stronger than the normal Números. They reside in Tres Cifras, which translates literally from Spanish as "three digits". As mentioned by Dordonii, these former "naturally created" Espada were rendered obsolete after Aizen began artificially creating arrancar to meet his own standards.
    -Bleach manga; chapter 254, page 1.

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    using the hougyouku or just removing the mask in general gives them a power up.
    you want evidence that they are being shinigamified?take a look at their apperance.humanoid form,zanpakutou, blah,blah.
    arrancars dont have the equivalent of an asauchi.ie if they have a zanpakutou,they can release it.
    ulquiorra took on full power masked ichigo without getting a scratch,and u look down on him?

    and that green smiley is irritating

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    Yo, like the others said, El Gran pescador was created by the orb of distortion is just that aizen was making test and he was incomplete thats all

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpool View Post
    About Power, the act of breaking the mask doesn't nessessarily creat an arrancar, see Inoue's brother, he didn't attain Shinigami powers when he Mask broke, and besides Rukia said that a shinigami breaking a mast was not incommon, the reason why they avoided was not to see who the hollow was.
    About this i disagree with you coz it's obvious that the act is "RIP OF", not brake, thats way in spanish is Arrancar(arrancarse la mascara) To rip of the mask, he ichigo borke his mask and not himself.

    Now for the analysis they say that you have to rip of your mask to become arrancar but, Kubo Tite hasn't stated which are the conditions that you have to fullfill to become an arrancar, coz is not just brake the mask, dont you think it has to be something else, like preparing the reiatsu in a different shape or something.

    Same with vizards, there is no clue about the process to gain hollow powers, it just said how to control them, ichigo won them by chance, so still your arrancar theory is kinda weak

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    ^ No, as long as the mask is partially removed, it's an arrancar, Urahara specifically mentions the fact that just removing the mask does not necessarily grant the hollows any powers (a zanpakutō for example),but they are still definitely arrancar.

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    So, it make sure that for to remove the mask and gain any power ther must be something to do, not just rip the mask, if you rip the mask you become a hollow with it mask ripped, arrancar are hollows who rip their mask to gain shinigami powers, but dont worry i see your point very clear (im sounding like i have a Phd in bleach XDDDD must stop acting like that xP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDogMike View Post
    Nope, Arrancars don't always have a human form (remember the first Arrancars that came to the human world?). It was explicitly stated in the manga that the only hollows that are guaranteed a human form when they become Arrancars are Vastorodes. For the rest of them, the higher their intelligence is, the higher chance that they will take a human form when they are transformed into an Arrancar.
    I didn't say human form i said humanoid. As in two arms two legs hands etc.


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    You can't rip your mask for a specifc purpose..

    I want to remove my mask to gain SuperSayian Powers
    I want to remove my mask to gain Shinigami powers
    I want to remove my mask to be in fashion, no power needed..


    The act of removing the mask, naturaly or atrifically, does 1 thing to hollows humanoid/Humanlike shape.
    The latent effect goes on how they removed their mask. Naturaly or Artificaly.. Removing artificialy conceids more power to the arrancar.

    For what I remember, Aizen have been using 'MENOS' on his Hougyoku experiments.
    Remember that the Hougyoku is SEALED Aizen needs to output 2 captains worth of reiatsu to weaken the barrier and use the thing.

    Everytime he creates an arrancar the barrier weakens.
    And they calculated that would take 4 months? for him to completely remove it.

    Now little back to how hollow ranks goes..
    Hollows - Fallen Pluses
    Menos: Pile of a bunch of Hollows, and we have 3 Types here
    Gillian - Weakest of them all..
    Adjuchas - Mid term of power, almost human-like.. but not there yet.
    Vasto Lords - Apice of power from normal means, human like apperance.

    Now back to the Hougyoku:
    Aizen been removing the mask of menos and up, grand fisher being a test subject was the only hollow know to have his mask removed. I assume every espada and numero out there is a menos atleast.

    [corrected] All currently ALIVE espadas are Adjuchas. #9 was the only exception being a gillian, but he died already so there nothing to except anymore

    Aizen is probably waiting for the full power of the Hougyoku, to use on Vasto Lords.
    Last edited by irecinius; 07-05-2007 at 01:27 PM.
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    ^ No where does it state that at least some of the Espada aren't vastorōde, while it could be true that none of them are, I don't know why people assume that.

    Besides you're wrong about 6 and lower being gillian, #9 said that he was the only gillian in the Espada.

 

 
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