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    tsuki_the_wolf is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Im going to ignore the obscenely stupid post above yours Tsuki. I think you're being a bit unclear. A manga with plotholes isnt good, but maybe you mean one that leaves things to the readers imagination?
    really i thought that i was being quite clear dispite the fact that at the time i was agreeing with you only to have you jump on my case.
    and what i mean is what i said, if it was perfect it would be boring. simple as that.
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    If it was perfect, it would be predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuki_the_wolf View Post
    really i thought that i was being quite clear dispite the fact that at the time i was agreeing with you only to have you jump on my case.
    and what i mean is what i said, if it was perfect it would be boring. simple as that.
    he was not jumping on your case tsuki, you misread his post, he's calling the post _ABOVE_ yours stupid, and is merely asking you if you meant a manga where everything isn't explained is better than a manga where everything is explained, instead of using the term plothole. SD doesn't think plotholes are good, and I'm sure you are not trying to say that they are. So I think everyone is in agreeance.

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    then i owe him an apology. i am sorry.
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    After searching a lot i think i have found an answer to my own question, it seems that there is a device named reishihenkanki, which lit. means spirit exchangers, this device is used to convert solid matter into spirit particles.

    The rules for a human to cross the dangai or the senkaimon cannot be material living things, since in the soul society everithing is made by spirit particles, the thing is that the same humans bodies have to be converted to spirit particles to cross to soul society which means that Urahara Kisuske, somehow, own one of these devices(which is deducted from soul society arc, coz he sends inoue chad and uryuu to SS), so it would be that using this device the reverted way would transform spirit particles into solid matter, explaining how isshin kurosaki could have childrens with his deceaced wife and so other manners that i was asking about. Vizards could own one too

    So in the end reishihenkanki an solve the enigma, that til kubo bring us the real thing and if he doesnt do, that can satisfy our dubts, or better said mines xDDD.

    THANKS TO ALL FOR THE OPINIONS

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    Apology accepted... lol no biggie.

    Josear, I completely forgot about that. But your original post isnt answered by that answer. You gave the impression you were talking about why they are visible to the eye not why the can exist on earth. And btw, things made of Spirit Particles can exist on Earth. Just a fyu =D


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    About Isshin, I would have fancied the thought he became shinigami similar to how Ichigo became one in the first place -- psuedo-shinigami and learned how to be one on his own later.

    That might explain how Urahara learned of a 'process'. And at least that would explain how Isshin got somebody preggy without posessing a gigai that comes with functional testicles.

    I mean come on, you gotta invent DNA for all of it to work

    All just trying to put some logic in an otherwise fictional arena

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthesky View Post
    he was not jumping on your case tsuki, you misread his post, he's calling the post _ABOVE_ yours stupid,
    yeah the one ABOVE yours... what an idiot.

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    ^Stop being a jerk.

    The point about Isshin's reproductive ability is good. It would make sense for Isshin to have gained his power like Ichigo if you look at the known history on Isshin.
    But I think the cape Isshin was wearing when he went shinigami was a little too suspect to say that he isn't from SS. I still feel more comfortable with the idea of him having some relation to the King or his royal guards or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animusdx View Post
    I think they're just massive plotholes made by Kubo's poor planning. I mean, comeon Rukia gets raped by the bottom of the barrel hollow in Episode 1 and is forced to give her powers to Ichigo. And now you see her have Shikai's killing Arrancars left and right.
    Did it never occur to you that this was necessary? Without the raping in ep/vol 1 there would be no Bleach to begin with.
    She would've killed the Hollow and waltzed of to SS. No Shinigami powers for Ichigo, no powers for Chad and Rukia, no rivalry with Ishida.....

    I think it's clear that she only lost for the sake of the story.
    She made the mistake to care about Ichigo and rescue him. If she had let him die, she could've easily slain the Hollow.
    The fact that she got bitten doesn't make her weak. In the beginning she didn't have her powers, so she couldn't fight (for a big part of the manga).
    And after she could the enemies were strong. Arrancars are not like normal Hollows, not even the weak ones.
    And getting beaten by Grimmjaw is not that bad. Ask Ichigo, and he'll tell you that Grimm is fairly strong.
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