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    angeltakerx is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Well that sounds reasonable. Hey remember when ichigo was training with the viazards how he got a tail and all of that cool stuff. Do you think it's possible that he may be able to tap into that power with further training. I mean if that crap was hollow ichigo's power, and they are trying to unite ichigo should be able to use that power

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    I don't understand the question being aksed. I thought Vaizards were shinigami who gained hollow powers or something like that. I wasn't aware Ichigo had a hollow side and a vaizard side.

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    Vizard Ichigo = Shinigami borrowing Hollow Powers wich could mean Shinigami + hollow, that means Vizard Ichigo is stronger than Hollow ichigo... But Hollow Ichigo knows how to draw all his power, which means right now Hollow ichigo would win a fight against Vizard Ichigo, but that doesn't make him stronger...

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    Ichigo has a Hollow side and that's why he's a Vaizard. The Vaizards are Shinigami who have awakened their Hollow sides.
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    Everyone has a hollow side, its just a matter of which is more dominant when you die. The nicest happiest person could die under the worst circumstances and become a hollow rather than a Plus [Shinigami]

    ...why is this thread labeled with spoiler tags?


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    Because the creator...is clearly....insane...

    I think it's the same as with Zangetsu personally. "I need powahz!" Oh My Gawadz! Here's ya some doom juice! AHHHH! Teh Powah!

    Or something like that.

    Good god that sounded newbish.

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    What I thought...
    Plus = any dead soul
    Minus = the ones rooted down in the material world by material desire/grudge (probably the latter)

    In the beginning of the anime (and in the Don Kanonji thing), it showed a hollow being made. From that, I'm assuming not everyone has a hollow side, but more like... decays into a hollow if they keep staying as ghosts instead of passed on spirits.

    anyway

    ~ Wichigo (I like that name better) > Vizard/Vaizard Ichigo. They have the same power, it's just that Wichigo knows how to use it better, I guess.
    It's like giving a samurai and a three year old two identical katanas and asking them to fight. The 3 year old's gotta get used to waving something heavier than him around.


    Quote Originally Posted by deadpool View Post
    Vizard Ichigo = Shinigami borrowing Hollow Powers wich could mean Shinigami + hollow, that means Vizard Ichigo is stronger than Hollow ichigo... But Hollow Ichigo knows how to draw all his power, which means right now Hollow ichigo would win a fight against Vizard Ichigo, but that doesn't make him stronger...
    Did that make sense to anyone at all?
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    You become a hollow if you die in an unhappy state or if you die and leave something important behind.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Because the creator...is clearly....insane...

    I think it's the same as with Zangetsu personally. "I need powahz!" Oh My Gawadz! Here's ya some doom juice! AHHHH! Teh Powah!

    Or something like that.

    Good god that sounded newbish.
    i just put the spoiler in the title just in case something had come up in the raws or somthing, and i will never question my insanity

    and i have a few more pionts that make me think that hollow ichigo is stronger than vizard, for one time, when hollow comes out he doesn't have a time table but when ichi goes vizard it runs out in a matter of seconds. A think about during the "test" by that one girl vizard the second he went hollow not even a full hollow transformation he almoust killed her.
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    xxsaznpride: I will make it simple so you can understand Vizard ichigo has more power than Hollow ichigo, but he cannot access or control all that power, while Hollow ichigo can control all his power.

    ^To explain it to you a Vizard is a shinigami that can borrow his hollow power and sum it with his, that means hollow ichigo + Ichigo = Vizard ichigo, but since ichigo still cannot control the huge amount of power he can only summon a fraction of it at a limited ammount of time. To make an example with numbers.... Let's say Ichigo has 5000 of power and hollow ichigo has 10000 of power.... Vizard Ichigo as of now has Ichigo's 5000 Plus about 2000 of Hollow Ichigo's power. Which means True Vizard Ichigo would have 15000 of power, but right now he can only get it up to 7000 during 11 seconds.
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