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    El Gus is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    I personally think that ranks and stuff shouldn't be based on character alone. Like, you can't be 'vice-captain level' unless you're the vice captain of one squad or another. So like, titles would be things that can be taken away or whatever. Like, you can have a vice-captain lose his position and be demoted if, say, he's beaten in battle by someone else, who would then take his rank, or replaced by his superior, another player who's gained one of the 13 available 'Captain' ranks.

    That way, you could have those badasses, like pre-captain Kenpachi, who are not affilliated with the gotei 13 but are still incredibly strong. Like, if someone had built up their character amazingly strong without ever bothering to advance through the Gotei ranks, then suddenly appears and starts kicking everyone's asses. That'd be pretty cool.
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    I totally agree. Its even genious. Official seated titles will only be given when appropriate. But anyone can challenge anyone. If its a fair challenge...both sides must accept and his rank will be placed on the line.

    Any levels for specific skills say above Level 40 can be considered Vice-Captain Class level. and any above 50 can be considered Captain Class Level. Thats not in any way to say he/she IS or ISN'T a seated officer but its a way to measure the strength.

    Its like telling someone although you haven't achieved ban kai yet, your demon magic skills and shunpo skills are clearly above captain class.

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    Agreed with MagoKui, there can only be 13 Captains and 13 Vice-Captain, that one can be considered as a Vice o a Cap, take Riukaku and Renji for example, they have already achieved Bankai, and Rukia, who is say to be on a vice Cap level, but they are not

    Also, someone over commented that for a Vaizard, it needed the Houkyoku, wrong, there have been vaizards all over before the houkyoku was even released, so, there's no need for the Vaizardsw to be in contact with the houkyoku, in case of the arrancar, they must be in contact with it

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    El Gus is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Yeah. And the whole 'arrancar as a starting race' thing, no offense, is bullshit.

    Each race should have the chance, if they complete some certain side-quest, to change their race at one point in the game; Shinigami to Vaizard, Hollow to Arrancar, and Quincy to... Iunno, maybe that 'ultimate quincy' thing Uryuu's become.
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    I could be completely wrong here but wouldn't it be easier to mod an existing game like Ragnarok and then play rather than starting from scratch?

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    El Gus is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Yeah, but we're all just suggesting what 'would be cool' here, not worrying about how insanely difficult it'd all be. Basing it off an existing game would limit lots of things that are Bleach-specific.
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    MagoKui Heir is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    The only reason I mentioned starting off as an Arrancar and not a Vaizard was because of what was seen in the manga.

    All the vaizards right now are retardly strong...while some Arrancars are so weak its pitiful. The Arrancar Rank System was a way to create balance and mimic the rank system that SS would be under.

    Think of it like this:
    Your a shinigami, you want to go to the Gotei 13 so you enter the bottom of the rut in whatever squad you're in. things are pretty much team based. You can go solo, but you can always call for back up and recieve orders (missions) from higher ups. If you wish to be a lone neutral shinigami (think urahara or isshin) then you reside on earth and make you're own story without following anyone's orders. You're only option for back up is you're buddy list. (good luck there with dependability, lol)

    Now what if someone likes that but they had no interest in being a shini...I figured if the person wants to go at it alone, they can just be a hollow with no attachment to rank system or anything and they pretty much make they're own story. (sort of like the neutral shini). These guys roam around Hueco mundo pretty much. They can freely move between hueco mundo and earth. (only higher levels can great gates to SS). Now lets continue and say that a gentleman WANTED a rank system but also WANTED to be a hollow, i figured a great way to do that was to be an arrancar and start at the bottom of the rut in the Arrancar Rank System (like Arrancar 13, Arrancar 13948, etc) Top 3 are GameMasters(Mods) (think Aizen, Tousen, Gin) next 10 are espada. All Ex-Espada have an "x" in front of their rank. So this pretty much gives both hollow/shini users the choice to go solo or "team". Also no Vaizard can reside in soul society, so that was also a reason why they weren't available at the start.

    Unless you think it would be better to just have no vaizard/arrancar choices in the beginning and rather an event would give you the choice to change. Maybe they shouldn't become available for choosing at the beginning until a 2nd or 3rd expansion pack...?

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    Well see, the only reason there aren't any Vaizard as weak as there are Arrancar is cuz there isn't someone running around turning every little shinigami they can into a vaizard to test out their new toy. So, yeah.

    I always figured that Hollows were included in the same type of ranking system, same army, as the arrancar; Remember back when Grand Fisher got beat up by Ichigo, and those arrancar were stitching him back up? It certainly LOOKED like they were on the same team.

    I'd say, have the whole ranking thing as Hollows for the beginning, then when the Arrancar event opens up start putting them in the higher ranks.

    That might also allow for some great conflict right there, when the high-ranking hollows who don't go arrancar right away realize that they're losing their positions to less experienced players who happened to find the upgrade.

    Ooh, I just had another good idea.

    Howbout, when the Transformation event happens, it functions kinda like the hougyoku; The sooner someone uses it, the less complete it is, the less powerful their transformation. So people would have to choose between using it as soon as the expansion came out and getting a little boost in their powers immediately, or waiting for it to be more complete and not turning to their next form until the power boost would be higher.
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    What I'm thinking is this:

    You start the game and can choose to be a:

    i think 13 Captains and 13 Vice-Captains should be fix for in game characters.
    you just lvl and those captains offer you quest/job.

    they should have some make up story that's not on manga, in fact they shouldn't use the manga story at all other than we might run into characters like Ichigo during the game.

    Hollow - Shinigami - Quincy - Arrancar - Bounto

    (im joking about the bounto of course, lmao)

    Hollow server = Hueco Mundo
    Shinigami server = Soul Society
    Quincy server = Earth

    i like that idea, if you start as shinigami you can select one of those 13 division. Depends on which Gotei you select, you will learn different abilities.
    for exmaple, 4th division, mostly healing skill. for 11th Division, is all about sword fighting skill,(you learn other skill as well, but not the high lvl one). on some other divisions you can learn high lvl Hand-to-Hand Combat, Magic.... of course you will have your zanpakuto skills.
    You can be Vaizard, but must make very diffcult and at very high or at max lvl.

    if you start as hollows, you can join one of those hollow divisions and Aizen being your boss and learning different skill based on each division.(can be Arrancar as well.)

    if you start as Quincy, well you just being quincy. (can be super Quincy)

    Edit:
    the only hard part is weapons. there is no way they are going to create unique zanpakuto for every new player. Make at the beginning there is a "Create you own weapon" feature that allow you to create one weapon depends on which race that you select. Hollow can have create a zanpakuto for future use. Quincy can create his/her own bow.

    If you die, you should just lose some amount of xp and you can delvl.
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    Hey whats up Guys. Just letting all of you know that there is already a bleach MMORPG in the works. We have a bunch of coders, 3d, and story people already working on the project. We have a thread on bleach forums. So if anyone here wants to help out or give us some input that would be appreciated. ALso if anyone has any 3d or .net coding experience we could always use more people in those areas.

    -JC

 

 
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