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    gigantor21 is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    The people I want to see go all out are:

    - The remaining Espada.
    - All the Vaizards.
    - All the captains and vice-captains whose Shikai/Bankai haven't been seen yet (Especially Zaraki and Soi Fong)
    - Isshin and Urahara.

    That's pretty much it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoKui Heir View Post
    Ichigo does have a release command. I dont think he used it. but if you read the manga chapter (can't remember...) but it was the episode of where ichigo fought urahara and was running around with a broken sword. Zangetsu told him what it was.

    Shout, Zangetsu

    I remember that being the release command...altho since the sealed command is broken, we will never see him go back to it and actually use it. But Zangetsu was coaching him to stand and not run and told him to say shout zangetsu...or something to that affect. Nevertheless the command was shout, zangetsu and you NEED the name to release it. We KNOW ichigo said the name to release but we dont know what the command exactly was.

    As you can see with

    http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ch06619qb2.jpg

    Ichigo does not say anything close to "Shout Zangetsu"


    And for this statement
    Quote Originally Posted by MagoKui Heir View Post
    Kenpachi has a sealed sword...nothing more needs to be said
    The definition of constant-released types should come in handy

    This comes from the Official Databook SOULs, Page 258.
    The Definition states that:
    "Constant-Released Type"--Due to the owner's spiritual force, these zanpakutō's take on their "initial release" form at all time. Ichigo's as well as Kenpachi's zanpakutō belong to this

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    MagoKui Heir is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me (the latter statement).

    Due to the owners spiritual force? Then why didn't Ichigo have an initial release form the entire series...? His first form broke...now he must use his shikai all the time. Plus...he was using a broken sealed sword until he learned the name....

    Kenpachi's sword looks regular...how the hell is it a shikai? it has no abilities...how the hell is it a shikai? he doesn't know the name...how the hell did it get to the shikai state?

    So you're telling me that the next thing Kenpachi needs to learn is ban kai?

    Come on...it doesn't make sense. That definition you posted was tossed out the window earlier neway.

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    as for the former statement. He YELLS Zangetsu. but AS I STATED....its not exactly clear what the command was but it makes sense for it to be Shout. I didn't read that particular manga chapter (and i didn't click the pic link, ill do it later) but i did see the episode and right before he said Zangetsu...he was told to Shout. Thats enough for me. Go to youtube and watch the ep (i'll even post it later) and it seems like the command (whether it was obvious or not) was Shout, Zangetsu.

    I dont know for sure and thats ALL i have to go with. But its more than what some other guys are pulling out of their @$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoKui Heir View Post
    Kenpachi's sword looks regular...how the hell is it a shikai? it has no abilities...how the hell is it a shikai? he doesn't know the name...how the hell did it get to the shikai state?
    Why are you trying to argue with something that the author flat out said?

    Besides like we already said (multiple times), Ichigo doesn't have a release command, why would that be an obstacle to Kenpachi having his shikai?

    And there's no reason for Kenpachi's shikai to have a special ability, Ichigo couldn't even use getsuga tenshou on command until after he learned how to use bankai.

    I gave you the chapter numbers already, and hotaruofmibu already posted the most relevant page. Why would you reference something from the anime anyways?
    Don't claim that someone doesn't know what they're talking about when you've already said that you don't remember what you're talking about, and you didn't even look at the evidence that they presented.
    Last edited by adonai; 03-14-2007 at 12:26 PM.

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    that page is more then truth that Ichigo used a release comand.... he shout Kitsuki, though in the version I have he says Zangetsu... either way it is in there for you to see that he uses a command to release the sword...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpool View Post
    that page is more then truth that Ichigo used a release comand.... he shout Kitsuki, though in the version I have he says Zangetsu... either way it is in there for you to see that he uses a command to release the sword...
    Damn, mangarain lied to us...I now trust only M7.

    I just downloaded the raw and it is indeed 斬月.

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    Wait what does that mean? Im lost now.

    That page you wrote says kitsuki...wtf....No comment.

    Ichigo has* a command. Its a friggin rule. What it is...we're not clear. What i believe it to be...Shout, Zangetsu. And i got that from the ep that I watched. Maybe the subtitles were a bit off. But hey...regardless: ichigo DOES have a command. and so does kenpachi's sword.

    Riddle me this...why all the hype on kenpachi's sword if its ALREADY released...? Shouldn't the next thing he need to work on be his BanKai? You dont need the name for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagoKui Heir View Post
    Wait what does that mean? Im lost now.

    That page you wrote says kitsuki...wtf....No comment.
    It means that mangarain made a translation error, it's supposed to be zangetsu (斬月).


    As for Kenpachi having shikai, why don't you trust the databook?
    "Constant-Released Type"--Due to the owner's spiritual force, these zanpakutō's take on their "initial release" form at all time. Ichigo's as well as Kenpachi's zanpakutō belong to this
    I can't think of any way for KT to state something more clearly.

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    I can't trust that because that sword has not changed at all from since before he was even a shinigami... It has also been told that to achieve shikai you need to know the name of your sword which zaraki doesn't know if his sword is in released state this would be a major plothole, something KT has not done yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adonai View Post
    And there's no reason for Kenpachi's shikai to have a special ability, Ichigo couldn't even use getsuga tenshou on command until after he learned how to use bankai.

    .... ichigo had mastered his getsuga tensho when he was in the midst of fighting to acheive bankai....... And although you other people can argue all you want the databook never lies

    I would like to see aizen fight or even see if rukia has a bankai {she seems strong enough I mean killing an arrankaru in one strike (even if it was a weak one) is too powerful} the only others would likely be any of the captains we havent seen realease completely yet and the other vaizards oh and obviously a vastrode if possible

    I wonder why nobody is intrested in seeing a vastrode fight?

 

 
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