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    neodarkness is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Default about arrancar numero nuevo (spoilers)

    should he even be considered an Arrancar? if he is indeed kaien, then he is a shinigami who attained the powers of a hollow. he also has no mask at all, so he cant be "the broken mask." His zanpackto release does not seem to release his hollow form, and is more of a shinigami release. lastly, if that mask he wears in the beginning is his hollow mask, he seems to me able to take it off at will, unlike the arrancars who seems to have their mask fragments stuck. so far, only the vaizards have shown the ability to have a full mask and move them at will. SO what is he? arrancar or vaizard?

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    For the reasons you pointed out, he is pretty clearly not an arrancar. Because of this I would believe him to be more like a variant vizard, controlled by his hollow spirit but not in a full hollow body. If he goes into a hollow conversion at some point in the battle then his vizard status would be pretty well confirmed.

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    He's just a shinigami infected with a Hollow... which increased his powers. He kinda explained it himself that the hollow's power of teleport + heal was more or less transferred to him completely because the hollow died.

    The mask he wore... I think he said it was because he couldn't stand the light. It might explain why it was night when he died instead of day (like in Yoruichi's flashbacks with Soi Fon).


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    wow. youve been here as long as i have, and I have less than 50 lol. wonder what my daily post average is.

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    i think he's like a crossbreed between arrancar and vaizard. he doesn't seem to be vaizard because he doesn't have the mask on, but not arrancar because his release is different. so i think he may be kind of a vaizard, but lost to the inner hollow, but in his case the hollow infection. that's just a wild guess though. it just seems he's not a full arrancar or hollow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrose003 View Post
    i think he's like a crossbreed between arrancar and vaizard. he doesn't seem to be vaizard because he doesn't have the mask on, but not arrancar because his release is different. so i think he may be kind of a vaizard, but lost to the inner hollow, but in his case the hollow infection. that's just a wild guess though. it just seems he's not a full arrancar or hollow.
    vaizard have their mask on only when they transformed more to hollow. they can do it anytime they want. do you ever see any vaizard that wears their mask 24/7?

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    Do we ever see a vizard that's dominated by their hollow side? If we did, we would see one that wore a mask most of the time.

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    then, if kaein really is a vaizard, that means he was not dominated by his hollow side and do everything on his own will. but it was never really stated what will happen to a vaizard when they lost to thier hollow side. when ichigo's training to control his hollow and he's about to lost to his hollow, his appearances change and become more hollow like. that might say that if the vaizard lost to his hollow he might become a hollow himself.

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    Maybe so, who knows? Perhaps Kaien's consciousness has truly merged with the Hollow's and they are in equilibrium, Kaien's personality and memories guided by the Hollow's nature, or the hollow can choose its form at will.

    Either way, none of those are evidences that he is any sort of arrancar.

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    i think he's has 2 spirits in him allowing him to be so strong. i think he's got a spilt personality and it keeps switching. the hollow and the real kaien have been merged for so long that they've gone weird. well, in any case we'll just have to wait and find out...

 

 
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