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    I really doubt he is an arrancar right now. most probably be a normal shinigami or vizard since he can use his shikai like one. but i think that is really Kaein as each shinigami have their own zankaputo and this one seems to be his eventhough it was never stated in the manga.

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    well wouldnt it be interesting if Aizen figured a way to make a shinigami/hollow combination like Kaien one that could utilize both a shinigami release and an arancarr release. Since yall claim he speaks with two different voices why not have him as two different souls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrose003 View Post
    Well, that doesn't really mean that's Kaien. It might be the dark side of his heart or something, but i don't think it could fully be Kaien. it's like if Ichigo lost to his hollow side, then the hollow Ichigo could use shikai and bankai in his body. so i think Kaien's still there, but possessed by hollow
    I don't think that anyone has claim that he's fully Kaien. I definitely didn't. I was just talking about that shapeshifter crap people were speculating about.



    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    well wouldnt it be interesting if Aizen figured a way to make a shinigami/hollow combination like Kaien one that could utilize both a shinigami release and an arancarr release. Since yall claim he speaks with two different voices why not have him as two different souls.
    We don't know that #9 can use resurrección, we don't even know that he can use bankai. As for his soul the only sure thing is that he's partially Kaien and partially the hollow that merged with him (he's exhibited qualities unique to both), beyond that, it's hard to say. He's not an arrancar because he didn't start off as a hollow and he doesn't have a broken mask, he isn't necessarily a vizard since his mask doesn't seem to just materialize, and it's purpose seems to be to protect him from the sun. I would think that he's probably something new, though if he's not he would be closer to being a vizard.

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    he doesn't have a bankai, but he's still pretty strong. his trident shikai is a water based zanpakuto that will probably be able to defeat Rukia, but if that espada is part Kaien, he should have same fighting style, so Rukia should know some of his moves. i still think that Kaien's dead wife is going to play a part in the fight though, even though it's only a guess from me.

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    ^ Kaien didn't have bankai when he merged with the hollow (as far as we know). That doesn't necessarily mean that #9 doesn't have it, though that is most likely the case.

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    finally someone with a polearm type weapon. would make for some different fights rather than swords all the way. i think kaien or the guy pretending to be him mite have a split personality thing like what stealdragon is saying. at some climactic part the real kaien emerges and sacrifces himself to help rukia, and then he coems back to soul society...would be cool...

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    ^ It's a trident, which means that it's a spear, not a polearm, and we have had spears before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrose003 View Post
    Well, that doesn't really mean that's Kaien. It might be the dark side of his heart or something, but i don't think it could fully be Kaien. it's like if Ichigo lost to his hollow side, then the hollow Ichigo could use shikai and bankai in his body. so i think Kaien's still there, but possessed by hollow
    You read my mind. It's as if his hollow side has caused him to go psychotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambrose003 View Post
    he doesn't have a bankai, but he's still pretty strong. his trident shikai is a water based zanpakuto that will probably be able to defeat Rukia, but if that espada is part Kaien, he should have same fighting style, so Rukia should know some of his moves. i still think that Kaien's dead wife is going to play a part in the fight though, even though it's only a guess from me.
    where does it say he has a water based Zanpakuto??? I know he has water attacks in the game but is it confirmed in the manga yet???

    btw wikipedia has a nice little theory on Kaien. Is it true? I dunno

    Arroniro Arleri
    Ninth Espada Arroniro Arleri

    Much later, Rukia encounters the ninth Espada, Arroniro Arleri (アーロニーロ・アルルエリ, Āronīro Arurueri?), while in Hueco Mundo. He leads her to a dark room since Aizen can see everything in the "sunlight" of Las Noches. He then removes his mask, revealing Kaien Shiba's face. He explains that Kaien is responsible for his appearance. The hollow that merged with Kaien was built in a such a way that it would return to Hueco Mundo when destroyed. Having been merged with Kaien at the time of its death, the two were sent back as one merged entity. In addition to having Kaien's appearance, Arroniro also possesses Kaien's memories and zanpakutō.

    While the other arrancar believe the hollow is the one in control, Arroniro asserts that it is actually Kaien who is dominant. However, Arroniro's behavior is extremely erratic: he claims to be Rukia's friend and then strikes her, suggests that Rukia kill her friends in order to earn his forgiveness, and alternates between being serious and joking almost instantly.
    the blue is what is new news to me


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    ^ Just look at the command words...it's pretty obvious, especially considering that his captain has a lightening and water based shikai (according to the command words and the video games), and Rukia has a ice/water based shikai. Though none of that is conclusive the video game has been correct so far (the command words and the fact that it was a tirdent), there's not really any reason to doubt it that I can think of.

 

 
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