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    cfmrfrpfmsf is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    nevermind about that last part, it already has its own thread that I didn't see before.

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    Tousen doesn't have to be stronger than the Espada - and also, Kenpachi is incredbly strong, and used strategy against Tousen. He doesn't need to be a Vaizard. In fact, it's pretty hard to imagine that any of the ex-Shinigami are Vaizards considering how Grimmjaw - an Espada - didn't recognize a Vaizard or have any idea what they were. (Right?)
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    that is true, but whos to say that the espada know that they are vizards.
    I really only want it to be true for gin, because I really want to see him as a vizard. and I still don't see why they wouldn't be. I mean they're doing this entire thing to get more power, and the easiest way for a shinigami to get a large boost in power after bankai would be vizard.

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    yeah, but right now aizen is still waiting for the hougyoku to fully awaken so he's still experimenting until he can get everything exactly the way he wants it, i'm sure he wouldn't want to use a half-done or experimental method to turn himself into a hybrid

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    question. why are we assuming that the hogyouku can be used only once on a person? i dont think aizanes aim for the hougyouku is anything like using it on himself. id go to match it with the anime where ishida was needed to open a door and not for his power or anything. So maybe the hougyouku will open the door for th path of the king. just a theory nothing much though.

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    its not a theory if it's wrong. Then it's just wrong. We Knoooooow what the Hougyouku is for. Stop searching for hidden meanings where none could possibly be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AYATO
    What i dont understand is, the vaizards ichigo trained with obtained hollow powers through forbidden arts... a smart guy like aizen could do that himself no doubt... So wouldnt he have done that already? i mean if the hyougoku isn't necessary then why not?
    may be the vaizards were created by a method aizen couldnt use.like they used the 3 day bankai thing and well didnt get it in 3 days.
    or they were ppl from rukongai ,who had no spirit power,but were given powers through 3 day hole training and got a hollow like ichigo did.(both courtesy urahara)
    this may even be what led aizen to think that merging hollows with shinigami makes for powerful dudes.of course,this makes urahara seem like he's behind everything.
    this is the height of speculation,but its an idea.

    ps:seems like just about every radical method urahara thinks of lasts for three days...

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    ps:seems like just about every radical method urahara thinks of lasts for three days...

    do you think he shits for 3 days?

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    nah that aint radical.
    to those who think tousen is stronger:
    ichigo beat kenpachi beat tousen beat grimjaw beat ichigo.
    you cant simply say that tousen is stronger than grimjaw,grim was surprised,and couldnt retaliate.from wat we saw in ichigo vs grimjaw part 2,that arm doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference (by ichigo's standards) in grimjaw's fighting capabilities.
    if aizen had allowed the fight to go on,tousen might have had his ass handed to him.probably why he stopped the fight,IMO
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    Factor in that the Espada probably have no clue what Tousen, Gin, or Aizens releases are. Girmmjow most likely didn't know what he was going up against when he was shooting off his mouth.


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