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    yeah too bad the answers are obscenely long o.O


    well this is something i want to add. i believe that Shinigamis are just jobs in soul society, like working for the Assassination squad or guarding Sereitei. i dont think any soul dies and pops up in SS wearing black robes and wielding a sword. that would just be a major wtf moment. plus we know shinigami are recruited and searched out from the 80 districts. its possible that all the departments of the Soul Society from the Gotei 13/Academy, to the Medical and Research Departments go out and seek out dead people who could become useful to the advancement of Soul Society.

    suddenly this made me think... how old is Urahara? he became a captain did years of research, founded the Research Institute, and still has time to LIVE 100 years and still look the same in his gigai... wtf.


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    Okay I admit I didn't read all the posts up to now because some are very long however I think the term 'shinigami' can be summed up in the next sentence. It is a POSITION that can be OBTAINED is SS. Really, do you think Rukia or Renji would be shinigami with zanpaktous and everything if they never went to the academy WTF do you think the academy is for. Before Zaraki challenged the previous 11th captain he was a nobody, he didn't have any shinigami powers. You are not born with a zanpaktou it is GIVEN to you once you reach a certain level of skill. And have earned the right to start commnication with the materialization of your soul. In any case that is my understanding of it. In other words my interpretation is the same as StealDragon.

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    Adding to dropthesky and stealdragon...

    It becomes simple when you look at it this way:

    Earth Defense/Offense -> Military = Soul Society Defense/Offense -> Gotei 13

    Military Personnel -> Soldier = Gotei 13 personnel -> Shinigami

    Military Recruitment = Gotei 13 Recruitment

    Traditional Military Weapon -> Gun = Traditional Gotei Weapon -> Zanpakutou

    Gun given once youve reached certain skill level -> Zanpakutou given when you reach certain skill level (dont ask me how the sword soul develops/where it comes from)

    Earth Assassination Squad -> Seperate from Military = SS Assasination Squad -> seperate from Gotei (Assasins and soldiers learn completely different things, it would be retarded to group em together neway)

    Earth medical force -> part of the military = SS ...you get the f*ckin point...
    (soldiers get hurt more than assassins...so medics are grouped with soldiers; assassins are to kill without being detected...seldom do they come under - unless you are Jason Bourne)

    A shinigami is one of the many jobs u can obtain in SS. You are special because you are part of the army, you are no longer a citizen. If you are really really really skilled you can try out for the assasination squad. (ive not seen any of them with zanpakutous except soi fon). If that doesn't suit u, u can also become a scientist for the Tech Development Bureau or go into politics and remain in the dead center of Seireitei.

    Not only shinigami reside in SS. Get it right. Get it now.

    Speaking of politicians and shinigami...i wonder what George Bush's bankai would look like...
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aznhuskarl View Post
    Rukia, Renji, Tousen, Soi Fon, Kaien and all those people were born and live in Soul Society before they were ranked as Shinigami.
    Who said they were born in soul society? I'm pretty sure they just died and their spirits materialised in Rukongai, like everyone else who "lives" there.

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    They don't come from the real world either. If they were born in the real world, then they shouldn't be able to reach Soul Society in any ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDogMike View Post
    Who said they were born in soul society? I'm pretty sure they just died and their spirits materialised in Rukongai, like everyone else who "lives" there.
    Irrelevant whether born in SS or not, that doesn't change anything

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    There weren't born in SS...by who??? Who and where are the parents...?
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    probably dead. unless their parents are hollows still id see no reason for you not to find your family in SS, didnt they have a whole arc with some kid looking for his parent sin Soul Society but getting lost because it was so huge??? i always assumed the powerful people in SS were just regular people who died and went to soul society thousands of years ago. and took their place protecting Earth from Hueco Mundo.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    Now you know StealDragon..that doesn't sound half bad. I would love to see an arc (manga only) about the first few shinigami.
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    Hmm, everybody seems to agree that becoming a shinigami is just a process that any spirit can go through. Getting a new job, and all. Which I think makes perfect sense...

    ...until, as I said before, you count Ichigo.

    Even IF Rukia had the hougyoku in her, how do you explain Ichigo's immediate trasnformation? It's baaaaaisically like, to use the examples already given... in the middle of a war, one side attacked the civilians on another. A soldier from the same side of the conflict as the civilians rushes in, but is wounded. Then, just because the wounded soldier has an ULTIMATE SOLDIER GUIDEBOOK (closest comparison I could make), one of the civilians suddenly is wearing full camo and holding a rifle and a bowie knife.

    It just doesn't make SENSE.
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