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    dropthesky is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Default Number of Arrancar/Time Issue/Type

    Heres something that has been plagueing me for a little while now. How many arrancar were there before Aizen started Hogykoyuing them? Has long has he been doing it? How many has he created? Is it just me or does it seem like its been a pretty short time, to create the whole espada lineup, and make modifications to it already, like having ex members. Were the espada around before him and he came and assumed leadership? How much time has passed since the events of him leaving SS till now?

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    He said that he was never actually loyal to SS and from the anime at least he's been around at least around the time that Rukia and Renji were students (around 50 years ago). So he's been doing something at least for that amount of time.

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    How many were there before? At least three. A simple D. Roy, Grand Fisher, and Ice Ringer.

    How many are there after Hougyoku? More than 20+ as he states when they were at the meeting. There are probably a lot more now.

    I'm assuming he has been doing for a long time, since he did modify the hollow that killed the shinigami counterpart of Ichigo. That and he modified the Big hollows that attacked Renji, Momo, and Kira (anime only I think). So it's natural that he should have had some of his former followers to help.

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    We can assume he's been making them experimentally for a loooooong time. The hougyoku allows him to make better ones, is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gus View Post
    We can assume he's been making them experimentally for a loooooong time. The hougyoku allows him to make better ones, is all.
    I see, so the espada has existed for a long time, they just weren't arrancar, am i correct, instead espada was mostly made up of the hollow classes above menos grande?

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    its been well over two months in the manga since he got HyoGoku, Ichigo was training all summer and it didnt seem that long. but its fall now and thats an entire season, considering he said hed been using it nonstop i dont see where its questionable how many hes made? hell if he made one a day thats still about 90 arancarr. i dont think there were any espada or arancarr to begin with before the HyoGoku arrived in Hueco Mundo. he just had failures (Nell & Co.) and successes (Espada & Co.) hes had plenty of time to make the dozens of arancarr we see running around that fortress/city.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthesky View Post
    I see, so the espada has existed for a long time, they just weren't arrancar, am i correct, instead espada was mostly made up of the hollow classes above menos grande?
    Of course they were arrancar. They just weren't as well-made arrancar, which is probably where the "over 100s" come in. They were amazing arrancar at the time, but with advances brought on by the hyougoku they became obsolete.

    I also think that the espada with the giant pole-head is a pre-hyougoku. He just looks so... still-hollow-ish.
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    i think azien was doing this even before all this rukai shit all happened

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    it wouldnt make sense you need a hyogoku in order to make an arancarr!!! how else could he have done it?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon
    it wouldnt make sense you need a hyogoku in order to make an arancarr!!! how else could he have done it?!
    Ichigo turned vaizard without it, so it could be possible for some hollows to turn arancarr without it

 

 
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