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    shaman-king is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    arrigato gozaimus (especially about the hat thing)

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    weird reading through this thread, i think some posts were either deleted or edited, to moderators, if ur gonna delete posts, can u at least leave a note saying a post has been deleted, as it ruins the flow of the thread.
    Last edited by dropthesky; 10-25-2006 at 05:36 PM.

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    nobody deleted anything speak your peace on the thread my good sir.

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    2 posts were deleted. There are 'deleted posts' in their place.

    Lets get back on topic now.

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    Here's a cool point:

    1. Urahara is a great scientist (the best) and created the hogyoku.
    2. Urahara most likely knows how to use it fully and understands it completely since he's the CREATOR.
    3. Urahara used it on himself, if not...why the HELL did he make it...
    4. Urahara didn't show Ichigo cuz its just plain retarded to do so at those early stages and probably even now. Also, if he showed it, readers would be like WTF before we even knew what the hell ban-kai was...
    5. Urahara is never "on time/late". He always comes at the best time to serve his purpose of protecting the masses. (ie destroy Rukia's powers, hide hogyuku forever, masses thus protected)

    Here is the point:
    the only reason Ichigo was able to become a vaizard was because Urahara did it. Doing research on hollow/shinigami boundaries and creating the hogyuku thereafter...I'm SURE he knew of natural ways to break the barrier.

    Thus, he shows up after Ichigo gets owned...rather than before. Then begins a method of returning Ichigo's natural shinigami powers (which im sure he knows of) as well as creating a hollow within him as well. Of course he wouldn't tell Ichigo...because that would be the same as just showing off his own mask...STUPID and POINTLESS...and we'd still be like WTF IS A BAN KAI. lmao

    TADA...MAKES SENSE TO ME!
    Aizen is gangsta for making everyone wear white.


    Tousen: "So what are we going to wear anyway? how do we tell each other apart from the shinigami?"
    Aizen: "I GOT IT....lets wear exactly what they wear...but make it WHITE!"
    Ichimaru: "OH SH*T, now THATS gangsta!"
    Tousen: "....even I wouldn't say that..."
    Aizen: "Loosen up Tousen...check this out...lets show him Gin!"

    Aizen/Ichimaru: "....BALLIN!!!!!...."

    Tousen: "... 0_0 ..."

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    I like this guy, god bless the educated newbies.

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    not sure exactly what u are trying to say...Ichigo is a natural Vaizard i think, the hogyoku has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthesky View Post
    not sure exactly what u are trying to say...Ichigo is a natural Vaizard i think, the hogyoku has nothing to do with it.
    Right. The Hyogyoku has nothing to do with Ichigo being a Vaizard, its because of the "training" he did with Urahara that made him into a hybrid.

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    It will not be uraharas training or the hogyouku that qualifies ichigo as a vaizard. The vaizards (army of masks) are the shinigamis that gained a hollow side to their reiatsu. So theres no way that you can be a "natural vaizard" because its an organization that you have to join and ichigo hasnt necessarily said that he will join them. I believe that he gained a hollow side to his reiatsu after being in such long contact with the hogyouku while it was inside rukias body. The training he did with the vaizards is the reason he can pull out a hollow mask.

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    By natural vaizard, im not refering to the vaizard organization. I'm refering to Ichigos hollow side. The 'anti-ichigo' inside him. While a hogyouku will create one inside you, being artificial, as opposed to Ichigos natural one. Him being so close to Rukia while it was inside her is irrelevant, the Hogyouku dones't work that way it must be released before it can do anything, which is why Aizen fled to Las Noches in the first place.

 

 
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