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    Adone is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon
    Aizen already pwned Ichigo with one finger and a non-released zanpakutou (yes, he didn't call upon shikai because Renji would have been hypnotized). Ichigo can't even take on Grimjow one armed, and Grimjow is scared shitless against Aizen. Winner will automatically be Aizen.
    Thats where the hollow transformation came in. With the hollow trans Ichigo was killing Grimmjow without getting hit at all. And it was still incomplete too, since Ichigo couldnt hold it for long and couldnt make full use of it. I dont remember when Ichigo fought Aizen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adone
    Thats where the hollow transformation came in. With the hollow trans Ichigo was killing Grimmjow without getting hit at all. And it was still incomplete too, since Ichigo couldnt hold it for long and couldnt make full use of it. I dont remember when Ichigo fought Aizen though.
    It was complete, but there was just that restriction. He still gained the speed and strength from it. That's why he was still training, to increase how much time he could keep it on.

    The hollow transformation was on par with Grimjow one arm, but what would happen if he had two? What would happen if he actually used Shikai? Ichigo would get pwned horribly. He was still confident that he would kill Ichigo when he was about to release. With Aizen, he got scared to the point of speechless even though he knew what he was capable of.

    Like I said, Aizen 1 finger and an unreleased Zanpakutou beat Ichigo. If they were to fight now, he'd get killed either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compjotr
    ??? correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that 'corpe doll' just the illusion/hypnosis trick of his zanpakutou? As far as I know, with the hypnosis he could have made everyone belive his zanpakutou is the flying spaghetti monster.

    You're not wrong. You're righter than I am... I said 'pretty much' because that's pretty much the only useful thing he can do. If he makes someone see someone else (Ichigo sees inoue as Grimjaw) they wouldn't be going through the movements of fighting... Ichi would just stab her, and we should know the real Grimmy would rip Ichi's head off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon
    Aizen already pwned Ichigo with one finger and a non-released zanpakutou (yes, he didn't call upon shikai because Renji would have been hypnotized). Ichigo can't even take on Grimjow one armed, and Grimjow is scared shitless against Aizen. Winner will automatically be Aizen.
    Absolutely right, Ichigo would get his ass kicked in 5 seconds. But this poses something else interesting: If Ichigo could only get the upper hand on one-armed Grimmjaw (no pun intended), then what chance do Ichigo & co. stand against revived grimjaw and all the arrancars better than him?

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    None, that's why Ichigo and friends are supposed to be on a suicide mission. Looks like Kubo will go for the Deus Ex Machina approach and make Ichigo turn into a super saiyen 7 to win.

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    its more like they will find a way around the fight, as for SSJ 7 its still to early, first tatsuki must change into wonderwomen ^^


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaznpride
    You're not wrong. You're righter than I am... I said 'pretty much' because that's pretty much the only useful thing he can do. If he makes someone see someone else (Ichigo sees inoue as Grimjaw) they wouldn't be going through the movements of fighting... Ichi would just stab her, and we should know the real Grimmy would rip Ichi's head off.
    Making his zanpakutou look like something else is definitely NOT the only thing that his zanpakutou can do. It is far from useless, because it posesses the power of complete hypnotism. He can make anyone who has witnessed his shikai being released believe anything he wants them to, from what we've been told. After all, he hypnotised and controlled the entire Center 46, making them issue the order to find and execute Rukia.

    (EDIT: I went back and tried to find the exact chapter where Aizen or someone else mentions what happened with the Center 46, but I couldn't find it. I did find a bit where Ishida says Aizen was probably impersonating the Center 46, but even if he did just kill and impersonate them, I'm sure that it's something he could have just as easily done with his zanpakutou.)

    It's an extremely overpowered zanpakutou in just its shikai form, and I honestly have no idea how any of the characters in this manga are supposed to overcome it. The author had better have something damn good in mind, because I don't want any stupid plot holes.
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    Bottom line is that Aizen could totally ass rape anyone in bleach right now. I mean so hard that even theere mommas would feel it. I thinkn they should just get a machine gun and shoot him(not sure if it would work but worth a try)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDogMike
    Making his zanpakutou look like something else is definitely NOT the only thing that his zanpakutou can do. It is far from useless, because it posesses the power of complete hypnotism. He can make anyone who has witnessed his shikai being released believe anything he wants them to, from what we've been told. After all, he hypnotised and controlled the entire Center 46, making them issue the order to find and execute Rukia.

    (EDIT: I went back and tried to find the exact chapter where Aizen or someone else mentions what happened with the Center 46, but I couldn't find it. I did find a bit where Ishida says Aizen was probably impersonating the Center 46, but even if he did just kill and impersonate them, I'm sure that it's something he could have just as easily done with his zanpakutou).
    He actually did kill them all first, and then impersonated. Remember Hitsugaya saying that he found the blood dried up and said that they probably died a long time ago. Usually Aizen would leave either him, Gin, or Tousen there to keep check on everything, and then when the orders needed, he/they would call someone and give the orders there.

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    Aizen Bankai = God Mode. I have no doubt. Something alongs the like SoSA, his Bankai can copy anyone else's bankai and use it against them with 10 times the power. This story has to end when Aizen is at the top about to take the "empty throne" in heaven, then God appears and bitchslaps him down. Nah.

    Isshin, Urahara, Yoruichi, Yamamoto, Kenpachi, and Ryuken are just as powerful.

 

 
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