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    Icy.Blitz is offline Banned Respected Member
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    if i could be invisible and easy access to all the hot women i know....oh man, the possibilites..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy.Blitz
    if i could be invisible and easy access to all the hot women i know....oh man, the possibilites..
    No one cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenova
    Now that I think of it, the translation provided does not specifically say that Inoue is invisible. More like undetectable - with her spiritual powers hidden or hindered to avoid detection. But I still think people can see her.
    Well the only people that would have been able to confirm if she could be seen were asleep so its all left to speculation until the question is answered in the manga
    Sherlock Holmes and Matthew Watson were on a camping and hiking trip. They had gone to bed and were lying there looking up at the sky. Holmes said, "Watson, look up. What do you see? "Well, I see thousands of stars." And what does that mean to you?" "Well, I guess it means we will have another nice day tomorrow. What does it mean to you, Holmes?" "To me, it means someone has stolen our tent".

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    Didn't Ulquiolla say that it(braclet) woul hide her presence/existence from all but Arrarcar and allow her to pass through solid objects?Perhaps thats invisibility.However, Ulquiolla also said not to make her presence known to anyone??How can she do that if her existence is hidden?
    Just because you have power that doesn't mean you know how to use it.

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    i felt really sad reading this chapter....=(
    I'm working but I still love to read mangas...Is it weird????

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    Quote Originally Posted by quam
    Didn't Ulquiolla say that it(braclet) woul hide her presence/existence from all but Arrarcar and allow her to pass through solid objects?Perhaps thats invisibility.However, Ulquiolla also said not to make her presence known to anyone??How can she do that if her existence is hidden?
    she can take off the bracelet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ensou_Masquerade
    Well the only people that would have been able to confirm if she could be seen were asleep so its all left to speculation until the question is answered in the manga
    I was talking about translation issues of the text we have, not of what is supposed to be shown in the manga.

    Didn't Ulquiolla say that it(braclet) woul hide her presence/existence from all but Arrarcar and allow her to pass through solid objects?Perhaps thats invisibility.However, Ulquiolla also said not to make her presence known to anyone??How can she do that if her existence is hidden?
    Passing through solid objects is immateriality. Inoue sneaks through a window, so she must not be immaterial or else she would have gone right through the wall or anything like that.

    Since Ulquiolla said that she had not to make her presence known to anyone it means that she doesn't have to let people know she's here. If she's immaterial she won't be able to touch things and even yet people and if she's invisible and immaterial I don't see how she will show her presence. The best option would be that her spiritual power can't be detected, so no one can lock on to it and go find her, except arrancar who can sense it.

    she can take off the bracelet
    She can but she's been ordered by Ulquiolla not to take it off. I don't think she'll even try to

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    I don't hate Orihime, I just dislike her. Beside Her extremely large chest, she doesn't have nothing going for her. Even if her powers are somewhat special, they can't attack. Even Invisible or undetectable, she is still predictable, we all knew she wouldn't have enough balls to go through with her attempt at kissing Ichigo. Plus Orihime ain't the type of girl that would have your back, with whom you can fight side to side, she is too soft.

    As for Rukia, she's more Bonny type of girl. But since SS, she has gone back to being Cold. I'd rather see character development from her.

    It still doesn't seem that Ulquiorra nor Grimmjaw were aware that Ichigo and Hirako were hybrids and the mask signified that they were using hollow powers. Now if the Bracelet that Ulquiorra gave Orihime has the ability to hide her presence and only Arrancar are able to sense it, doesn't that mean hybrids(ichigo, vaizards) should be able to sense it as well???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost305
    Now if the Bracelet that Ulquiorra gave Orihime has the ability to hide her presence and only Arrancar are able to sense it, doesn't that mean hybrids(ichigo, vaizards) should be able to sense it as well???
    Arrancars are hollows who have broken their masks. And through the hougyoku they gain shinigami powers. they are a different type other than the Vaizards who are shinigami with powers. Moreover I don't see arrancars tracking Inoue to her spiritual energy. They must be tracking the bracelet itself, since they are mostly certain that she won't take it off.

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    I can't believe this.... Ever since Renji & co. arrived to karakura, Bleach has been going down in style a little more and more each chapter.

    But this one, THIS one is rock bottom. It's like cheap cheap shoujo, i have read even better shoujos than this chapter. I.HATE.THIS.CHAPTER

    Not because Inoue is sad, not because she is hopeless. is because the style KT chose to tell this event. I mean, i remember Rukia's goodbye when she was brought back to SS, that was a greatly told: Ichigo semi-death and a proud Rukia not wanting Ichigo to help her... And now I read this chapter and I find a sleeping Ichigo and a ghost Inoue... I want to puke...

    Ever since chapter 195 KT has been straying on the plot and, at leat to me, doesn't make any sense "storytelling wise".

    I fell in love with the first volumes of bleach, it was like a "mature shonen", not because of the plot, but due to the way the author "told" the story. And Bleach target wasn't kids nor teenagers, it was for people in the early twenties.

    When the SS arc started, the target changed and the way the things happened were intended for a younger audience, like people 15+ yo, but it was OK and the Bleach fandom grew.

    But the actual argumental arc is way too different, it's intended for kids, and in many forum you can see everyday a lot of noobs coming and coming, wich are kids (not that i don't like their presence), but i miss the bleach from before. The bleach that each week surprised me with creativity and not-so-explicit relations between the characters...

    The storytelling is getting so dull and missing some important facts, that is like another mangaka is writting the story:

    - About a year ago, yes a YEAR, we were teased with Karin, Tatsuki and Keigo possibility of getting power, that argumental line has dissapeared.

    - Renji came with a lot of companions, why did KT had to tag along Matsumoto or Yumichika? They didn't had a major part in the events. Heck, even Matsumoto's Arrancar was one of the weakest (she won with just Shikai) and yumichika didn't even fought. It was just pure fan service that dragged the story.

    - Rukia was supposed to be seen as a more powerful character, KT even showed us her beautiful Shikai, just to we overwhelming overpowered by Grimmjow in two occasions. i mean, if KT wanted us to think "Rukia is powerful", he shouldn't have had her look so weak after a great manifestation of power on her behalf.

    - Inoue changed, she was such a great character. I get that her emotions are arising, but a year of emotions is enough. I get she is powerful, but we don't need a year to get that. nad her relationship with Tatsuki has been thrown to the garbage. Isn't she missing her friend? But now we have to believe that Rukia and Inoue are best friends...

    - Now the author wants to introduce the migthy undefeatable foes, and how does he chooses to do that? anihilating 5 of them in just one night... wow we are doomed...

    - Supposedly rigth now bleach is "darker", we have seen a lot of blood and such, but what is darker? a bunch of comic vizards fooling around? or a BAD bad guy that let's his prey say good bye to her friends (pretty soft)?

    - Now the vizards... they were introduced more than a year ago and in a great way, we feared them... but now they were turned in the fool patrol...


    Now in recent chapters KT has let a lot of things slipped, and he didn't used to be like that:

    - ALL SS was informed about the espada being in Karakura, but who were the powerful reinforcements? Just one shinigami (Rukia) and the Human girl (Orihime)...? SS sure wanted Hitsugaya death that bad?

    - Inoue healed two shinigami's and neither one of them has informed about the Espada in the tunnel. And worst, nobody misses Inoue and they don't know her whereabouts... hell it has been 12 hours, 12 HOURS!!

    - Ichigo cameback to his house just like that? A minor was missing for about two months and he is sleeping quietly in his room...?


    I mean, Bleach has changed a lot, and sadly for the worst, many readers have dropped the manga, and if things keep like this, i will so too.

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