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    But still, People of importance or some importance haven't died. Even if you see them on the verge death, two chapters later you see them like NOthing happened. The power Levels are so badly distributed that you ask yourself if they will indeed beat Aizen. The shinigami convoy sent to Karakura had to be pulled because in my opinion they were too weak, i think Kubo making them go to Karakura messed the story up some more: How can you take characters from a previous arc(minor characters) and turn them into secondary main characters all of a Sudden.

    He even had Yumichika and Matsumoto trying to learn Bankai, a skill that was supposedly rare and godly and now have become a Laughingstock. If accroding to descriptions, Vaizards are supposed to be stronger than shinigamis then how come you got regular shinigamis like Urahara beating down Espadas and looking like he's equal in power with the vaizards. it doesn't make sense.

    He has Rukia who's supposed to be the Main Female chick looking weak as hell and making her equal in attack power as Orihime who you can say has just gotten her powers and Rukia has had 50+ years of experience. He showed her zampaktou only to have her getting gutted right after. Plus why the hell is she all friendly with Inoue, Inoue is supposed to hate her and to be Jealous of her. He's made Inoue into a bubbleGum character and Made Rukia loose some her coldness. How can he make Rukia the main female chick look so bad.

    You kinda asking yourself what's up with all the vaizards being able to maintain hollow form for a limited amount of time. What's the point of putting a time limit anyways, If you beat your hollow down, is there even a need for a time limit???

    I'm glad so far that we haven't seen other people becoming vaizards and other people reaching BanKai. And seeing how kubo fucked up by sending the convoy to karakura, he was forced to Include Ikkaku into the BanKai history. it doesn't matter what explination he gave. It feels like it all started with Ichigo achieving it in three days.

    As for Ishida and his father, they are like those people you ask yourself: what the fuck are they doing here?? were they even invited? is there a point to them fighting the war?? didn't they hate shinigamis and hollows?? They are like the unwanted party.

    But when you really look at it, things kinda went wrong from the Beginning, though Bleach is a great manga, it has flaws and from the start the flaws started to pile up and creating other flaws. I think that giving CHad and Orihime powers messed things up, it distorted the power level hierarchy. Plus what are their powers?? armor and fairies?? they aren't from any clan or do not have a special blood heritage. Ichigo had a strong spirit from the start since he was able to see and touch spirits. but them they couldn't do either.

    I think Kubo is starting to fix things up a bit by having SS not help on the rescue of Orihime and still making Yamamoto as the cold commander. the Friendly status between Ichigo and SS was really messing up the story. You kinda ask yourself what where the convoy doing in karakura in the first Place.

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    Uhm... worst board error ever. Sorry about the quadruple post, it kept not showing up.
    Last edited by erachima; 08-10-2006 at 10:19 AM.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
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    Someone delete this.
    Last edited by erachima; 08-10-2006 at 10:20 AM.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

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    Ignore this post.
    Last edited by erachima; 08-10-2006 at 10:19 AM.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zala
    what ? ichigo died ? oh if you mean his soul was out of his body, yeah that was happened all the time.. (especially because of his part-time job as a shinigami)
    No, I mean he lost his chain of fate. You must be dead to be a shinigami. Before that, he was just borrowing his power.

    He has Rukia who's supposed to be the Main Female chick looking weak as hell and making her equal in attack power as Orihime who you can say has just gotten her powers and Rukia has had 50+ years of experience. He showed her zampaktou only to have her getting gutted right after. Plus why the hell is she all friendly with Inoue, Inoue is supposed to hate her and to be Jealous of her. He's made Inoue into a bubbleGum character and Made Rukia loose some her coldness. How can he make Rukia the main female chick look so bad.
    Because Rukia sucks? That's basically all there is to it. She had her time in the spotlight, and she wasted it by being all whiny. Now she's hopelessly overshadowed by, well, everyone. I was seriously hoping Grimmjow would kill her a couple chapters ago, spurring Ichigo into a gigantic rage-induced power boost in which he managed to break through the 11 second limit and thrash Grimmjow, but he just sort of lay there pinned to the ground instead. A pity, eh?

    One thing to realize is that in a series with as many recurring characters as Bleach has, the focus must shift from character to character, or we'd have like 7 main people and 80 hanger-on people who just sort of sat around and did nothing. If the author had a bit more guts, he might deal with this by killing people off, (or in One Piece style, have them get left behind on an island) but he hasn't, so instead he has to juggle them all. They focused on the shinigami quite a bit recently, it's Orihime's turn to be the plot object.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

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    Some people just can't get over the fact that Rukia isn't the only main female character in the series...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krytha
    Some people just can't get over the fact that Rukia isn't the only main female character in the series...
    Come on lets be serious, Rukia is the Main female character. I think all SHounen mangas should take a page out of Oda's book: As much as funny it is, there is a lot of serious moments in it. Like what happened between Luffy and Usopp, you kind of saw this building up since the first time he joined the Sh's crew.
    In Bleach, there hasn't been a moment like that. As good as the SS arc was, it wasn't like that. Why can't Kubo kill off some of the secondary and minor characters to open up space??

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    Correction: Rukia is the main female plot object. Or should I say WAS the main female plot object? She's hardly a character in any sense of the word. All she does is gripe at Ichigo, and she's less developed personality-wise than even Chad the utterly monotone is. (probably not much more powerful either) She served her purpose, introducing Ichigo to the shinigami world and acting as the object of contention for the second story arc. Now she's just dragging them down.

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

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    Let me ask this question, why must there be a female main character in Bleach? Why can't it be 1 main character, Ichigo, and everybody else are either secondary or minor characters?

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    Because main characters are generally a group? In accordance with the anime rule of 5 main characters, Bleach has Ichigo (main main character, as it were), Rukia (plot object/romantic interest), Ishida (rival), Orihime (plot object/romantic interest, chosen one?), and Chad (best friend). The secondary characters would be people like Renji, Hitsugaya, Kon, etc.

    A lot of the Rukia vs. Orihime argument derives from the fact that their roles are totally redundant with each other. Normally, the 5th character would be a comic relief figure, but instead we have a second plot object/romantic interest. But hey, it gives us something to talk about, so who cares?

    Uryuu freaky, pale and geeky,
    how do your powers grow?
    "With gloves and scars and silver stars
    and swords that I shoot from a bow,
    yes, swords that I shoot from a bow."

 

 
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