Thread: confused??

well first off i would like to say that i watched all episodes and read all the manga (well from where the anime stopped from) in 8 days

ok to the point now. so ichigo's hollow will never take control of him anymore as long as he doesnt die?? is that how it goes? and when he said that thing bout "i can only stay like this for 11 secs im little cocky fag that likes gay porno" does that mean he is using the ichigo hollow??? or is the mask kinda like just a power up? mant he couple of the last few episodes have been confusing me. oh btw i hope that all those dam characters that are in the fillers dont ever come in out of freaking nowhere.

If Ichigo dies than so Does the hollow,they are two sides of the same coin. Whenever the Mask is on, he is tapping into his hollow's power but I don't know what will happen if he goes over 11 seconds, which is why the time limit doesn't make sense to me; since, doesn't the mask being on, means the amount of time you can keep the hollow under wraps?? Is there even a point to the time limit and training to achieve more time.

the episodes make like so much more sense lol. btw thank you for clearing that up for me. oh and when did bleach first start?

Edit: btw by episodes i mean the anime 0.0

The whole point is that when 11 seconds elapses, Ichigo returns to normal Ichigo and gets his ass kicked. ugh...

The time limit is how long ichigo can access the extra powers gained by utilising the powers of the hollow inside him. When 11 seconds is up he will lose control of the powers but the hollow won't gain control of him as thats stupid as how would one know their own limit.

When the time limit is up the mask will disappear and shatter and ichigo will either have to fight without it which is equally stupid or more probable activate the 'mask' again and use the powers of the hollow once again. The main issue is how long is the cooldown between the moment the 11 seconds is up and ichigo can regain access to the powers granted by the inner hollow. If there is no cooldown the issue exists of the opponent knowing what will happen and therefore every 11 seconds ichigo will be vulnerable and be open to attack as he is forced to back off and use one hand to 'put on' the mask and we all know ichigo can't fight one handed.

edit: nice post krytha

Originally Posted by chimpion1

The time limit is how long ichigo can access the extra powers gained by utilising the powers of the hollow inside him. When 11 seconds is up he will lose control of the powers but the hollow won't gain control of him as thats stupid as how would one know their own limit.

When the time limit is up the mask will disappear and shatter and ichigo will either have to fight without it which is equally stupid or more probable activate the 'mask' again and use the powers of the hollow once again. The main issue is how long is the cooldown between the moment the 11 seconds is up and ichigo can regain access to the powers granted by the inner hollow. If there is no cooldown the issue exists of the opponent knowing what will happen and therefore every 11 seconds ichigo will be vulnerable and be open to attack as he is forced to back off and use one hand to 'put on' the mask and we all know ichigo can't fight one handed.

edit: nice post krytha

But don't you think the time limit is pointless to begin with since he already subdued his hollow and made him his horse? whats the point of training for time limit now? doesn't make any sense or whatsoever.

The fact that he temporarily subdued his hollow just means that he can fight NORMALLY without it consuming him. The current time-limit is how much time he can borrow the hollow's power to fight. Before he was fighting the hollow for control of his life. Now he borrows the hollow's power.

It all makes sense, just go and read it again.

*editz*
lol you almost simu-posted me chimpion

Who says you need your hand to put on the Mask? Im sure theres just a way to call it out, like Bankai. You just gotta think it, say a magic word or something along those lines, and he can fight one handed, a few examples in the anime.

I think its possible that you need to cool down for the same amount of time that you can keep the Mask out, and eventually that kind of nooby thing dissapears, especially for the strong Vaizards.

Yeah, maybe if my post was a little shorter it could've been simu-posted. Also Urahara64 the reason i say it requires a hand is that everytime we've seen ichigo or a vaizard transform they've put the hand across their face ready to "rip" the mask out of nowhere and apply it onto their face.

Examples is shown countless times by ichigo, hiyori and the dude who faced transformed ichigo going to use cero/sero.

o_0

Has anyone actually counted the times elasped between previous occurances with Anti-Ichigo taking over?...It looks to be over 11 secs in the Anime <_<;;