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    Namonaki is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    Grand Fisher was originally a hollow...
    When he got beat up by Ichigo in the cemetary and ran away...
    He went back to Aizen for help, Aizen patched him up better...And he went back for revenge in chapter...187?

    Anyway, I believe that once a soul gets eaten, it goes to Hueco Mundo...wanders around until it turns into a Hollow...I presume its like the reverse side of a Shinigami finding it

    Shinigami purifies the soul > Goes to Soul Society > Lives/Maybe Dies

    Hollow Eats Soul > Soul goes to Hueco Mundo > Wanders around until its a Hollow

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    First i can't exactly remember and i'm too lazy to readup but when a ghost gets eaten by a hollow it just disappears or it gets sent to Hueco Mundo. Thats part of the problem with hollows as it causes imbalances between the real world and the spiritual world however it could also be seen as a moderating factor however harsh that sounds.

    Secondly Grand Fisher is not the same hollow as the one that possessed Kaien. The name of the one that possessed Kaien is unknown and was CREATED by Aizen as part of his initial experiments WITHOUT the hougyoku.

    Grand Fisher was a normal hollow who first fought ichigo and lost. Then in the "lift" - well i think its a lift - he was repaired by GRIMMJAW JAGUAR JACK while D.ROY watched. Then later he was modified by Aizen as an initial test subject of aizen's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimpion1
    Grand Fisher was a normal hollow who first fought ichigo and lost. Then in the "lift" - well i think its a lift - he was repaired by GRIMMJAW JAGUAR JACK while D.ROY watched. Then later he was modified by Aizen as an initial test subject of aizen's.
    Good eye on that. I was trying to figure out who was fixing up Grand Fisher but eventually I gave up.

    Anyway, I dont remember anyone saying anything about eaten souls going to Hueco Mundo. Most likely, it is a bullshit fantasy theory by people who like to speculate endlessly on things.

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    Grand Fisher got upgraded by Aizen >.< I must have missed that chapter anyone want to tell me which one. Also Grand Fisher at the end of volume three is only wearing a half mask. I know it doesn't look like it, but he has eyes.

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    Okay... when a hollow eats a soul, it's gone. Gone, vanished, disappeared, never to be seen again. Hollows are made when the pre-existing ones drag pluses in the material world into Hueco Mundo and transform them... one way or another. That's how it was shown in like, the 3rd ep when Orihime's brother came and told his story. If Ichigo's mom became a hollow, he'd have to have fought her, or there'd be some miracle that made it possible for Ichigo to fight against his mom after she no longer existed.

    And Grand Fisher didn't kill Kaien-dono. That was some other hollow, cause the hollow died to Rukia's sword... I think. If I remember that right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaznpride
    Okay... when a hollow eats a soul, it's gone. Gone, vanished, disappeared, never to be seen again. Hollows are made when the pre-existing ones drag pluses in the material world into Hueco Mundo and transform them... one way or another. That's how it was shown in like, the 3rd ep when Orihime's brother came and told his story. If Ichigo's mom became a hollow, he'd have to have fought her, or there'd be some miracle that made it possible for Ichigo to fight against his mom after she no longer existed.

    And Grand Fisher didn't kill Kaien-dono. That was some other hollow, cause the hollow died to Rukia's sword... I think. If I remember that right.
    oh yea... the 1 who attacked ichigo's mother was grand fisher.. and the 1 who attacked kaien-dono was another hollow... i'm wrong...

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    If Hollows keep eating ghosts and thus the ghosts 'disappear', wouldn't the number of beings (both spiritual AND living ones) degenerate overtime and eventually expire due to the finite number of entities? Perhaps we should assume that hollow-consumed ghosts lose only their 'individuality' and their energy is turned into a raw substance. This then becomes part of the hollow (thus a long period of energy collection makes the hollow stronger overtime) and once the hollow 'dies', the energy is leaked and becomes part of the environment and eventually collects into the spiritual world to spawn new souls (or human souls in the living world). Spirit energy collection from the environment is how Quincies use their powers after all.
    The anime version of the events involving Inoue's brother didnt make sense if the hollows were simply 'consuming' him which then turns him hollow. Why go through the trouble of bringing him to Hueco Mundo when they could have eaten him on the spot? Not to mention the ghost diaspearing bit. To try and explain this 'mess up'> Perhaps they sensed a hollow candidate and decided to 'speed' things up a bit. A least it shows that there is some intelligent hierarchy at work in Hueco mundo in the lower ranks.
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    This is so confusing. I need some some panadol. My head. UHHH...

 

 
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