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    if Ichigo had lost to his hollow side, he would have been an Arrancar. Because remember there is thin line between arrancar and SHinigami-hybrid. In Arrankars the dominant or Original side is a hollow, while in shinigami-hybrids the dominant or original side is a shinigami.
    He would have been like espada level arrankar.

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    stronger actually remember Ulquiorra said he had spirtial powers that higher then him (chapter 193) and according the rules of mangas the cooler they look the stronger. Ulquiorra looks like hes about 2-3 place of the group
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    Arancarr = Hollow who took off their Masks to obtain shinigami powers especially a Zanpakutou

    Vizard = a Shinigami who has a dark side (thier hollow side) and took control over it

    If you have an arancar side and you took over it, that is a hollow that already took off its mask and obtained shinigami powers (in which in my opinion will be a very hard task) You will have a Vizard/Arancar hybrid that is superior to both Vizards and Arancars. I dont know what it will be but i guess it will be very strong.
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................

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    I dont think thats how it works

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    I don't think a Vaizard/Arankaru combination is possible. They essentially have the same powers, but the way they acquired them is different. That's why Arankaru look like Hollows and Vaizards look like humans (Shinigami, technically). I mean, they may have different attacks, but one probably isn't stronger than the other seeing as they both have Hollow and Shinigami powers.

    How could you become a mix of them when they have the same powers? I mean, unless an Arankaru and a Vaizard somehow managed to have a hybrid child or something, which is not something we want to think about. Take Ichigo, for example. He's technically a Vaizard, having become a Shinigami first and then gained Hollow powers. To become an Arankaru, he'd have to be a Hollow first - which is impossible, because he was a Shinigami first.

    I suppose it would be somewhat possible to be both - not having any special powers, just... not fitting into either category - if you became a Shinigami and a Hollow at the same time, but I'm not too sure about the way Ichigo's training went, so I don't know if that's really possible.

    Had Ichigo lost to his Hollow side, he'd probably have been dead, or a Hollow. I doubt he'd be an Arankaru because the normal part of him - the Shinigami part - would probably have died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    I don't think a Vaizard/Arankaru combination is possible. They essentially have the same powers, but the way they acquired them is different. That's why Arankaru look like Hollows and Vaizards look like humans (Shinigami, technically). I mean, they may have different attacks, but one probably isn't stronger than the other seeing as they both have Hollow and Shinigami powers.

    How could you become a mix of them when they have the same powers? I mean, unless an Arankaru and a Vaizard somehow managed to have a hybrid child or something, which is not something we want to think about. Take Ichigo, for example. He's technically a Vaizard, having become a Shinigami first and then gained Hollow powers. To become an Arankaru, he'd have to be a Hollow first - which is impossible, because he was a Shinigami first.

    I suppose it would be somewhat possible to be both - not having any special powers, just... not fitting into either category - if you became a Shinigami and a Hollow at the same time, but I'm not too sure about the way Ichigo's training went, so I don't know if that's really possible.

    Had Ichigo lost to his Hollow side, he'd probably have been dead, or a Hollow. I doubt he'd be an Arankaru because the normal part of him - the Shinigami part - would probably have died.
    Like I said, there is a thin line that separates them. They are the direct opposites of Each other. one the dominant or original side is a shinigami and the other one the dominant and orginal side is a hollow.
    check this out:
    HOllows: origins are human
    shinigamis: origins are human
    If dominant side in either one changes, then one would become the other.

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    Ichigo has a Hollow inside him, because at the moment of Shiba Kaien's death, he regained control of the Hollow inside, and Rukia killed him with her Soul Slayer.

    Ichigo is the re-incarnation of Kaien, no doubt about it.

    And im sure it once said, Death God's who get killed are reborn into a random human body. Complete with thier old Spirit Force, and MAYBE the same Soul Slayer. Ichigo might have Zangetsu, and Zangetsu might not be the same as Kaien's Soul Slayer, but Ichigo got Zangetsu through some weird method Urahara invented.

    Maybe its all Urahara's plot to make Ichigo gain Zangetsu for some purpose? Since its probably an almighty one.

    But anyway, back to the Vaizard thing.

    Wouldnt Kaien have been a sort of Vaizard/Arrancar combo? Since the Hollow had control, then Kaien took back his control.




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    I think Ichigo might be come the mix of the two because after he lost the shinigami power he was just a spirit. but when he did regain his powers he got both sides at the same time. remeber is chain disappeared too and while he got his sword back. That might what makes him unique from the rest. i think Shiba have no relations with Ichigo to begin with. all his spirital powers are all from his father i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urahara64
    Ichigo has a Hollow inside him, because at the moment of Shiba Kaien's death, he regained control of the Hollow inside, and Rukia killed him with her Soul Slayer.

    Ichigo is the re-incarnation of Kaien, no doubt about it.

    And im sure it once said, Death God's who get killed are reborn into a random human body. Complete with thier old Spirit Force, and MAYBE the same Soul Slayer. Ichigo might have Zangetsu, and Zangetsu might not be the same as Kaien's Soul Slayer, but Ichigo got Zangetsu through some weird method Urahara invented.

    Maybe its all Urahara's plot to make Ichigo gain Zangetsu for some purpose? Since its probably an almighty one.

    But anyway, back to the Vaizard thing.

    Wouldnt Kaien have been a sort of Vaizard/Arrancar combo? Since the Hollow had control, then Kaien took back his control.
    at first i was gonna laugh at you, but then again i realize you are NEW so it ain't your fault. It seems you didn't get the notice that Ichigo's powers come from birth because his own father is a shinigami. and you also don't know that he got his hollow from when he was in the shaft. the hollow that ate Kaien is a different being from him, while the hollow inside Ichigo is just the hollow form of himself, they are the same.
    GO READ THE MANGA FROM START TO THE CURRENT CHAPTER TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

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    I didn't read many of the earlier posts, didn't choose to. IF I say anything already said, then whatever.

    Vizards are the shinigami who've taken over their hollow selves.
    Arankal (and I have always called them that) are pretty much hollows that have taken over their shinigami sides.

    In a sense, I'd say that the vizards took control over the bad sides of their soul and meshed that power into their own, whereas arankal, which were already bad, took over the good side of their soul. With becoming vizard or arankal, you get the thing exclusive to the other party. For vizards, you get a custom mask, and a hollow form. For arankal, you get a zanpakutou (the ability to release it, also), and a humanoid shape.

    And Kaien can't really be considered to be a vizard or an arankal. Why? Because it was pretty much just a body switch. Nothing more to that. And since I think that hollows die more instantaneously than shinigami if they take big hits, that's why Kaien had his few seconds to talk with Rukia before passing on himself.
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