Thread: Some things in Berserk that just don't make sense

Well, being a manga intended entirely for entertainment, regardless of its depth and complexity or whatnot, it's obviously going to take a few liberties in its storytelling, but there are obviously ones that really, really don't add up. These range from Guts surviving all the "abuse" he takes throughout the series and a lot of the stuff happening in the first few volumes in particular up to like volume 5, to plot conveniences like Skully not taking the liberty of killing Griffith while he was most vulnerable in his own damn tower, instead choosing to spare fricken Rickert when he has the ability to (Dark Horse quote) "fly through the night forest, just like wind." >_>

Well, the biggest one for me would be... well, Guts not being suspected for Julius' murder. I mean.. there sure as hell can't be two men of the exact height and build, donning the same clothes essentially except for some hood which doesn't in the least conceal his face, and with the exact same "freakishly massive sword," not to mention the former is a renowned warrior famous all across the kingdom (even to commoners, as we see in volume eight, just so I back up my facts straight).

Right, so that just doesn't add up, especially when you consider that Guts was seen in the exact same guise with the exact same arrow wound later, "looking like he fell in the moat or something."

And...

Also, on an irrelevent (or rather, skeptical, lol) note, volume 14 of Berserk has "the Elves of Misty Valley" as "Mystic Valley." Seriously, check the page for the typo (I'll even scan if you want) if you really wish (and the Table of Contents even has it as "Misty Valley!" >_>), because mine sure as hell has it "Mystic." (and naw, no DBZ references, those memes are ooooold.)

And on that note, did anyone notice, the first prints of Berserk in volume one has the quote as "Indeed, it was like a heap of raw iron" while the later ones have it "... a slab of raw iron?" Because the same volume I mentioned in the above paragraph has it as "Slab," and for some reason the later volumes also have the episodes that had something like (2) as "chapter -insert number here-" but the first volume I bought in 2004 has it as "Part -insert number."

I don't really give half a shit, but isn't it kind of odd how each "arc" is divided into chapters and episodes, and then parts, but the same parts are called "chapters" for some reason. More things that don't make sense in the overpriced volumes we're paying thrice what the Japanese are getting for the originals, besides most copies of volumes like 4 and some 13's getting horribly, horribly misprinted. >_>

^^ Wow!! I can only presume no one has yet replied to this because all of your arguments are just so petty.

OK... We'll go with the argument that "may" have the most merit... "Guts not being suspected for Julius' murder."

Fact is, the dude killed everyone who saw him (Case in point, thats the reason he killed the kid).

I don't see even one other argument in the rest of your post that warrants discussion. Perhaps I'm adding fuel to the fire by even replying, but I couldn't help myelf.

At least one denial is all thats really necessary but you need some Denial, your post is warranted Bahmunt.

Now to bash the rest of your thoughts...

Also, on an irrelevent (or rather, skeptical, lol) note, volume 14 of Berserk has "the Elves of Misty Valley" as "Mystic Valley." Seriously, check the page for the typo (I'll even scan if you want) if you really wish (and the Table of Contents even has it as "Misty Valley!" >_>), because mine sure as hell has it "Mystic." (and naw, no DBZ references, those memes are ooooold.)

And on that note, did anyone notice, the first prints of Berserk in volume one has the quote as "Indeed, it was like a heap of raw iron" while the later ones have it "... a slab of raw iron?" Because the same volume I mentioned in the above paragraph has it as "Slab," and for some reason the later volumes also have the episodes that had something like (2) as "chapter -insert number here-" but the first volume I bought in 2004 has it as "Part -insert number."

Berserk is scanlated. That means fans do it. That means sometimes different groups and people. Japanese doesn't translate literally. One person gets Mystic, one person gets Misty. One person gets chunk another gets slab.

I don't really give half a shit, but isn't it kind of odd how each "arc" is divided into chapters and episodes, and then parts, but the same parts are called "chapters" for some reason. More things that don't make sense in the overpriced volumes we're paying thrice what the Japanese are getting for the originals, besides most copies of volumes like 4 and some 13's getting horribly, horribly misprinted. >_>

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If you don't give a shit, don't worry about it and bother us with it.

Originally Posted by martyr3810

Berserk is scanlated. That means fans do it. That means sometimes different groups and people. Japanese doesn't translate literally. One person gets Mystic, one person gets Misty. One person gets chunk another gets slab.

I was talking about the Dark Horse edition, done by the licensors with the legal rights to translate the series (which they're abusing now, taking down the scanlations even though they're the ones who turn us off from buying the English releases, since we get 13.95+tax for something zoomed-in with added bubbles where they were uncalled for when the Japanese get them for, what, 460 yen? >_>). >_>

@Bahmunt: He didn't kill all of them, just the ones in his way, not to mention there were people like the archers who apparently saw him well enough that they landed an arrow in his arm. So "no-one" saw him then? Yeah, some petty argument there. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T. ^_^

Also, naw, it's not that I "give a shit," just that I felt the need to mention them since at the cruddy tl;dr text at the start of each chapter they have something like _____ arc, ______chapter: ______ (chapter 1/2/3/4), which makes the term "chapter" used twice for two distinctly different things, since a real "chapter" in Berserk would be multi-volume mini-arcs like the Lost Children or binding Chain stuff, which sure as hell is bigger than "parts" of an episode an' crap.

But carry on. I'm getting some lolz at the bullshit getting spouted around by Bah-mung up there.

Well, soldiers when fighting at night don't necesary need to see the enemy clearly, they just follow orders, they tell them shoot arrows to the "man in a cloak" or at that direction and they do it. So I doubt the case was "I'm going to shoot his arm, 'cause they want him dead, but I want him to escape". And from my perspective I don't think they knew what Gutts wore.

Tamiel -

First of all remember that the band of the Hawk was very popular so people would refuse to believe that they would be involved in a shady assassination.

Guts ran too fast so they cannot make an accurate assumption of his exact height and build or even his clothes. Anyone who was close enough to tell was killed.

Just because the assassin had a big sword that argument could also be used that the enemy wanted to frame the band of the Hawk to damage their reputation. I mean there already been an apparent attempt to kill the princess so it not that far fetch that they would try to kill the rest of the royalty.

Also the only ones who know about the arrow wound are Casca and maybe some of the Band of the hawk. And if anyone asks about it Guts could say that the wound came from a battle, god knows how many scars he has.

So in the end there is not enough evidence to prove that Guts did it.

About skull knight not attacking Griffith in his torture chamber it is simple. He did not know that Griffith was there, he is not all knowing.
He only knew where the eclipse took place because of all the apostles there, that he saved Rickert was coincidence . So I guess he waited for Griffith to come but was sidetracked by Zodd.

^ I was under the assumption that Skull Knight had no reason to actually prevent the eclipse but rather was using the event in order to fight void. Maybe Im wrong.

Also, griffith was suspected for plotting to murder Julius by minister foss, but he was too scared to come forward after encountering griffith to confirm his suspicion.


Oh, about Dark Horse, just because its a liscense manga, doesnt mean japanese translates literally. They could have multiple working on berserk and it changed. People make mistakes and that has nothing to do with miura so it really shouldnt be discussed at all. Besides, dont multiple people describe the sword that way? I think both Puck and Jill say similar things about the sword so is it really a big deal that one person says slab and the other chunk?

Originally Posted by Kenseithelorris

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I'm getting some lolz at the bullshit getting spouted around by Bah-mung up there.

Are you ok in the head? Someone should give this person a hug or something.

Originally Posted by Whatapyro

^ I was under the assumption that Skull Knight had no reason to actually prevent the eclipse but rather was using the event in order to fight void. Maybe Im wrong.

Eh, if he wanted to "fight Void" then he could go over to Flora for tips (assuming her character was even conceived at the time), or drive an apostle to near-death/madness so he can summon the godhand and ("case in point:" Guts nearly kills the Count in volume three, which triggers a Godhand advent) crap seeing as Zodd seems to be viewed as a stronger apostle than all the other ones seen in the series until Ganishka, and he's apparently a bit stronger.

Not only that, but the first time he shows up, he says "yet unaware of the fleshless flesh" or something of the sort to my memory, which obviously refers to post-Tower Griffith, so....

Yeah.

Oh, about Dark Horse, just because its a liscense manga, doesnt mean japanese translates literally. They could have multiple working on berserk and it changed. People make mistakes and that has nothing to do with miura so it really shouldnt be discussed at all. Besides, dont multiple people describe the sword that way? I think both Puck and Jill say similar things about the sword so is it really a big deal that one person says slab and the other chunk?

Well, yeah, "multiple are working on Berserk," since if you see the credits at the first page, it changes from people like Duane Johnson to Jason DeAngelis at certain points, and sometimes people other than Digital Manga Publishing do the text editing even though they're apparently all instructed to remove the serious cursing (i.e. fuck, shit, etc.), but when I buy something that costs me a three hours' pay (with TAX), I just expect it, well... damn near perfect, which the Dark Horse crap ain't, to be blunt. Takes pretty goddamn long for a volume to come out too, since not too long ago it took three months for a volume with untranslated sound effects (which I like it better as: volumes 12 and onward suck for that reason) to come out even though all it'd take for them to release them really would be a couple of weeks at best, if they didn't ADD THE GODDAMN BUBBLES so often (proof? 1-3 and 8-10 are FULL of these instances). >_>

Welcome to reality and realising that 90% of official japanese too english translation sucks in Anime and manga.
It's funny how much more accurate fanwork usually are (good fanwork, not speed too have translated it first). Atleast in those cases I've seen and compared.