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    diuness is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Default What's up with the baby?!?!?

    I'm talking about the monster baby that appears out of nowhere. It appears in front of Gatts, Caska, and inside (?) Femto. Is it always the same baby? What does it do? How was it created? Is it dead after that "egg apostle" ate it?

    So many questions, I've yet to get a chance to reread it, I hope some of you guys who've reread it can provide some insight to this baby.

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    BrkngTheHbt is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    You def have to reread some stuff again.

    ***SPOILERS***


    The baby is Gatt's and Caska's child.


    1) Is it always the same baby?
    Yes

    2) What does it do?
    He protects his parents, Gatts and Caska, at times... especially Caska during the "reincarnation" of Griffith at the tower. But he'll prolly have a bigger role in the future.

    3) How was it created?
    Well... when a man, Gatts, and a woman, Caska, really like each other they might... you know... and then a stork flies along and drops a baby boy or girl. lol

    But nah... the reason why he's so deformed is cuz he got "tainted" when Griffith/Femto raped Caska during the Eclipse.

    4) Is it dead after that "egg apostle" ate it?
    Well... how far have you read? Maybe he shows up again in Vol 28 or sooner? lol mI really don't wanna spoil this for you if you haven't read that far or haven't figured it out yourself. There are some interesting theories out there though.

    Just reread it yourself again and some of the stuff will prolly make more sense now.
    BTH

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    I dunno I got kinda confused. I originally thought that it merged with the Behelit apostle and then Femto using his godhand powers used it and turned it into the neo-Griffith. But those thoughts were thrown out the window when the long, black haired child was found by the beach cottage and especially when someone commented they looked like a family when Caska and Gutts stopped the baby from falling. Then that child disappeared after appearing as an esper to Gutt's berserker self, then was shown again looking down from the cliff. Could be the child somehow escaped from the Behelit and turned human or something /shrug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick88 View Post
    I dunno I got kinda confused. I originally thought that it merged with the Behelit apostle and then Femto using his godhand powers used it and turned it into the neo-Griffith. But those thoughts were thrown out the window when the long, black haired child was found by the beach cottage and especially when someone commented they looked like a family when Caska and Gutts stopped the baby from falling. Then that child disappeared after appearing as an esper to Gutt's berserker self, then was shown again looking down from the cliff. Could be the child somehow escaped from the Behelit and turned human or something /shrug.

    ***MORE SPOILERS***




    Well the black haired child from the ocean IS that same baby. It's all still speculation... but that latter part is actually what I first thought too, diuness. However, that doesn't exactly make much sense when you think about it.

    But then someone posted their theory and it was something like that Griffith and Gatts' and Caska's child have merged together as one. Essentially, it's Griffith during the day and the small child during a full moon (very werewolf-ish). Griffith protected Caska from the boulders during the "Graveyard of Swords" fight, afterwards when Griffith leaves you see him clutching his heart and a picture of the "tainted" baby appears, the child protects Caska by scaring off the alligator and brings back Gatts from his berserk rage... all these events seem to agree with the theory that Griffith and the child are one and the same being. Also, someone pointed out the figure of Zodd standing on the hill waiting for the child/Griffith to return... although I don't see anything.

    Most ppl agree with that theory like they do with the SK theory. It'll be interesting to see how the relation between Gatts, Griffith, and the child will develop. Will he have to kill his own son to get revenge? :O
    BTH

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    Hmm it could be kinda like the whole Inuyasha thing with Neraku where he gets rid of his human heart. And looked at the said episode (chapter 243) there is a 3 panel page which shows (from upper right to left) [the corpse of the sea beast with the kid's hair] -> [the kid standing in front of the full moon] -> [a close up of the kid with the moon in the backround].

    No sign of Zodd at all. However I noticed his eyes which seem really similar to Griffith. And the way he stares seems more like a glare, piercing and intimidating just like Griffith and unlike Caska's 'duuurrr' stares.

    [edit]: Griffith eyes pre-eclipse
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    thanks for the theories, i definately need to reread!! I think the theory that Griffith and the baby are one holds, cleared up a lot for me

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    it's not a theory that caska and gutts's "deformed" child gave "rebirth" to griffith...griffith himself said so...as for the moon child, that is a pretty good theory

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    my theory is that after gatts\gutts took caskas virginity she was pregnant, when griffith was reborn and he raped caska his demon sperm caused the child to be deformed which is what the skull-knight says when she gave birth to he\she\it albeit the child on the beach\shore does look alot like gatts\gutts and caska

    during the tower arc though didnt the egg thing start off his life saying he was on the side of the road and ran down a hill? (2 humans commented on his appearance) wasnt that what happened to the child after the sun made it disappear? so...did gutss kill his child? or im thinking to much

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    demon + sperm shouldn't be used in the same sentence... doesn't sound right.

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    That theory about the moon child is interesting.. but, I don't like it.

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