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    mugenpower0 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    fansubs do know about whats going on.

    I'm sure you've read the Bleach7 spoof sub on Narutofan.com, people like these fansub groups are sick of having their hardwork (which is intellectual property) be stolen and used for PROFIT, without any compensation.

    That is the problem we have with Tazmo. Sure, it'd be all good if he paid Inane, Dattebayo and all the other fansub groups he steals from. But he doesn't, and that is the heart of the problem.

    He's STEALING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

    Whereas other sites such as this one, is only being a re-distro source, where people can get the manga for FREE. Which allows the fansubs to get more exposure.
    Last edited by mugenpower0; 02-25-2006 at 01:17 PM.

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    The whole effort thing and he should get money gets on my nerves. First off if anything fansubbers should get the money since thier the ones taking their time to sub Not tazmo. To go farther the money should go to the creators for making the comic or show but its not.

    Also if you dont like this site and what it stands for then dont come here or dont bitch here cause. Find another site
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    ouch jeez, its not that i dont like the site ling, and im not bitching. im just saying, he should get money for putting effort into the site, but i do agree that fansubbers should get something in return for their work also. ya, but a lot of anime sites also leech off of fansubbers not only tazmo. but im not saying its right to leach off of fansubbers, but creating a hate blogg wont put money into the hands of fansub groups. also im sorry if i offend anyone in the site, i really do like this site.

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    Leeching off fansubbers is bad, and I also agree Tazmo should have paid Inane and the other groups, but also, creating a hate blog, telling bad 'Yo Momma' jokes, and spreading possibly false rumors is a little over the top. Fansubbers leech off one another like mad, there's no stopping it because no fansubber has legal rights to anything, because they themselves are infringing copyrights. I understand the amount of effort they put in, and I respect it, but there is no way of protecting it, sad as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksjl92
    ouch jeez, its not that i dont like the site ling, and im not bitching. im just saying, he should get money for putting effort into the site, but i do agree that fansubbers should get something in return for their work also. ya, but a lot of anime sites also leech off of fansubbers not only tazmo. but im not saying its right to leach off of fansubbers, but creating a hate blogg wont put money into the hands of fansub groups. also im sorry if i offend anyone in the site, i really do like this site.
    just shut the fuck up before you'll get flamed even more, this is the wrong forum if you want to say good things or why 'question' related to tazmo because you've seen what ppl do in this forum. yeah so you shld stfu. not tryin to be mean or anything. seriously you don't know how much you'll hate tazmo if you were a fansubber. all your effort etc, wasted for an asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by air
    just shut the fuck up before you'll get flamed even more, this is the wrong forum if you want to say good things or why 'question' related to tazmo because you've seen what ppl do in this forum. yeah so you shld stfu. not tryin to be mean or anything. seriously you don't know how much you'll hate tazmo if you were a fansubber. all your effort etc, wasted for an asshole
    Woah, relax Air, ksjl92 has a right to an opinion, flaming or not. I understand the whole 'I've worked hard for this, how could you take it' problem, I've had problems with it too, it doesn't jsut apply to fansubbers. I think it's ridiculous that people are getting flamed or heavily criticised for expressing even a minute amount of support for Tazmo. I don't think anyone here is even mature enough to have a conversation about it, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsharp
    to me, its how much hes charging for ppl to dl anime/manga

    obviously a rip off and a bunch of lies...

    and, hes asking for donations to support naruto plus...doesnt make sense to me
    It's a ripoff, for sure, but the only "bunch of lies" I see here is Kane's accusations of child porn, wife beating, and DDoS attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by mugenpower0
    fansubs do know about whats going on.

    I'm sure you've read the Bleach7 spoof sub on Narutofan.com, people like these fansub groups are sick of having their hardwork (which is intellectual property) be stolen and used for PROFIT, without any compensation.

    That is the problem we have with Tazmo. Sure, it'd be all good if he paid Inane, Dattebayo and all the other fansub groups he steals from. But he doesn't, and that is the heart of the problem.

    He's STEALING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

    Whereas other sites such as this one, is only being a re-distro source, where people can get the manga for FREE. Which allows the fansubs to get more exposure.
    Actually, he's not stealing anything from the subbers/scanslators because they illegally modified the works in the first place. The "intellecual property" isn't theirs, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by air
    just shut the fuck up before you'll get flamed even more, this is the wrong forum if you want to say good things or why 'question' related to tazmo because you've seen what ppl do in this forum. yeah so you shld stfu. not tryin to be mean or anything. seriously you don't know how much you'll hate tazmo if you were a fansubber. all your effort etc, wasted for an asshole
    No. You fail.
    These people are asking valid questions, while you have decided to blindly follow whoever screams the loudest.
    And in case you weren't aware, saying "stfu" is an automatic loss in any argument.
    Last edited by Vash7ehStampede; 02-25-2006 at 05:51 PM.
    I'm not here much, but if you have anything to say to me about Tazmo, you're either (a) fanatical, or (b) wrong. If not, we can be friends. Except you, Martyr. We can never be friends.

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    Those are serious lies though, wouldn't you think? DDoS not as serious, but child porn and wife-beating, that's crude. I don't think it's right for anyone to support that, which people appear to be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t.a.l.i.s.t.r.u.e
    Those are serious lies though, wouldn't you think? DDoS not as serious, but child porn and wife-beating, that's crude. I don't think it's right for anyone to support that, which people appear to be doing.
    The child porn and wife-beating are obviously just stupid crap Kane says cause its funny...I doubt anybody actually believes tazmo looks at child porn or beats his wife he probably doesn't even have a wife....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vash7ehStampede
    Actually, he's not stealing anything from the subbers/scanslators because they illegally modified the works in the first place. The "intellecual property" isn't theirs, either.
    your sorta right...its true that the fansubbers are essentially pirates but they make no money (actually its usually at there own expense) while tazmo is making a profit (and hell yes he is making a profit) counting PLUS, donations and the slew of ads on his site he's probably making a good chunk of change.


    They will write a new page, if only they could write, they will start a new age all they need is time,its a penguin attack!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguins
    your sorta right...its true that the fansubbers are essentially pirates but they make no money (actually its usually at there own expense)
    You're absolutely right, of course. You could argue that what Tazmo is doing is more morally wrong, and I would have to agree with that.
    However, I must note that even though there is obviously a donation surplus, we don't know how much that is, and nobody has done anything to prove he's spending those surpluses rather than reserving them for use in the site. Remember, he didn't always have services like PLUS. For all we know, he could be making up for past deficits (though I doubt it). If not, PLUS still makes sense, as donations will naturally decrease as the pool of new members shrinks. More traffic + less donations = need for alternative sources of revenue (note: not profit, revenue).
    Remember, I'm not suggesting Tazmo isn't making a surplus, I'm just challenging the size and use of that surplus.
    I'm not here much, but if you have anything to say to me about Tazmo, you're either (a) fanatical, or (b) wrong. If not, we can be friends. Except you, Martyr. We can never be friends.

 

 
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