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    Chrisl is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Default Is this site a fake ?

    Normaly i wouldn´t care since I´m only downloading from this site. But did nobody really asked this before or is it just me ?

    I mean, all you are doing here for NF is free advertising and i doubt the webmaster of narutofan would mind that. There are always people who don`t like / like a site. That quite normal; the same with famous actors and so on... But even poeple who don`t know NF yet, would visit it, thanks to this site. And no matter what you blame him for here, maybe at best 5% care for. The rest is just downloading like me. Not to mention that it is fake to begin with, that you claim Tazmo is a criminal while you guys offer here 100 times more manga downloads and that open for everybody (so that might be alot more dls). Why do you think people visit that site ? It is because of the dls.

    Therefore.. strange strange strange what is going on here.

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    There's a lot more to it than that. He uses fansubs and scanlations and won't take them down no matter how much the people who release them don't want him hosting them. He then charges people to get access to those fansubs and scanlations. Assuming the things I've read are true, he actually charges enough to make a decent living for himself. Now, if you were a fansubber or manga scanlator, how would you feel about someone taking something you put time and money into and making a large profit off of it while you, yourself, ask nothing in return? You'd feel pretty cheated and scammed. I know first hand the work these people do, it's not easy and if they use DVD raws it's even kind of expensive. They see not a cent of anything. Yet some jerk who makes them all available for a $5 fee can make up to $30,000+ a year. Now, once again, not sure how accurate those numbers are. Not that they need to be. Even if he were giving away the fansubs and scanlations for free, the people who create them should be respected and if they don't want them being distibuted there, he should still take them down.

    Anyways, this site, to me, isn't so much about legality. 'Cause really, none of this is legal. Pirating's just what we do. In a way what Tazmo's done should've been expected. No honor among theives after all. But this site has done some good. It changed me and a large number of people over. About the people who don't care about the people who give them this stuff in a language they can understand, fuck them. No kidding. I don't mean to be vulgar, but these people don't owe you anything. They aren't your slaves. I'm of the opinion we all ower them quite a bit. We'll see how much you care about them when they stop producing for you.

    I don't know, I'm a little testy on that subject. Sorry.

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    There's a lot more to it than that. He uses fansubs and scanlations and won't take them down no matter how much the people who release them don't want him hosting them.
    Doesn`t VIZ own the series ?
    You cannot say, that site is only at fault. I think that goes for every naruto fan page. Does this site got the rights from any translator for offering the dls ?

    He then charges people to get access to those fansubs and scanlations. Assuming the things I've read are true, he actually charges enough to make a decent living for himself.
    That might be true; even through there isn`t any real proof. But again.. look for my question. Doesn´t this site make him richer than ?

    Now, if you were a fansubber or manga scanlator, how would you feel about someone taking something you put time and money into and making a large profit off of it while you, yourself, ask nothing in return? You'd feel pretty cheated and scammed. I know first hand the work these people do, it's not easy and if they use DVD raws it's even kind of expensive. They see not a cent of anything. Yet some jerk who makes them all available for a $5 fee can make up to $30,000+ a year. Now, once again, not sure how accurate those numbers are. Not that they need to be. Even if he were giving away the fansubs and scanlations for free, the people who create them should be respected and if they don't want them being distibuted there, he should still take them down.
    Sure, i understand what i mean. But i guess, there isn`t much you can do since it is not legal to begin with.

    Anyways, this site, to me, isn't so much about legality. 'Cause really, none of this is legal. Pirating's just what we do. In a way what Tazmo's done should've been expected. No honor among theives after all. But this site has done some good. It changed me and a large number of people over. About the people who don't care about the people who give them this stuff in a language they can understand, fuck them. No kidding. I don't mean to be vulgar, but these people don't owe you anything. They aren't your slaves. I'm of the opinion we all ower them quite a bit. We'll see how much you care about them when they stop producing for you.
    Well, i agree with you. Still i cannot say that this site isn`t doing the opposite.

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    Chris dude go fuck your self with your narutofack. Tazmo is an idiot and that's it. If you like him that much get the fuck out of here. ktnhx bye

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    "Doesn`t VIZ own the series ?
    You cannot say, that site is only at fault. I think that goes for every naruto fan page. Does this site got the rights from any translator for offering the dls ?"

    If you mean Naruto, yes. But they haven't done too good a job with it though. I don't know if StopTazmo's gotten permission from all the scanlators to host their manga. But I've yet to hear of a group complaining about it so that hasn't come up yet. I doubt it would though, they aren't making any cash off of them (that we know of, this whole thing makes trust a pretty tricky issue).

    "That might be true; even through there isn`t any real proof. But again.. look for my question. Doesn´t this site make him richer than ?"

    This sight doesn't really give him free advertising at all. I can see why you'd think that but overall I suspect it's detracted from his traffic. Several of my friends and have I haven't been to narutofan once since we were directed here.

    "Sure, i understand what i mean. But i guess, there isn`t much you can do since it is not legal to begin with. "

    Oh, but you're wrong, there's plenty they can do. I'm not sure why it hasn't been done, but it wouldn't be hard. Putting little anti-narutofan messages in every piece of work produced by people who don't want their stuff on Narutofan would be all too easy. Sure that stuff gets edited out of the scanlations but he'd have a far harder time with subtitles.

    "Well, i agree with you. Still i cannot say that this site isn`t doing the opposite."

    That last one confused me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbi
    Chris dude go fuck your self with your narutofack. Tazmo is an idiot and that's it. If you like him that much get the fuck out of here. ktnhx bye
    if tazmo is such an idiot how is he making a living for himself with an internet buisness that likely takes me about an hour a day to maintain? seems like a rather smart guy to me.

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