Thread: your 2 cents on tazmo and his site

Hey, honestly i think this site is wicked with all the manga's i can leech off all i want but what i think about tazmo is that yes he is an ass for taking other people's work and making money out of it but what i want to know is whether the people who tanslated it have actually done anything about it?

i mean fair enough you guys can voice it out that he is doing this shit but does the people who translated it care? i mean if they do then my arguement is pointless hahaha..

also with the money he makes with the PLUS every thread i read does say he is stealing it and using it for personal use but there is actaul real proof that he is stealing donators money...and if you think of it in a business perspective he did do alot of hard work with the site...(notice i said site not what he distributes) and indeed it has become one the most visited sites i don't see any problem with him getting some rewards for his hard work (unlesss its totaly ridiculus)

overall i think tazmo site is..well not too bad...if you want to donate money you can and then be allowed to other types of anime which he provide direct links to (i believe is to be the case, cause i aint a plus member)which also saves trouble searching for it, and i think that is what he charges plus members for, saving time searching through various sites when you can go to onesite for it.

Thats just what i think hope no one takes offence

narutofan seems too cluttered. the website itself is just visually unappealing to me. That was one of the reasons I liked Direct Manga when it was a separate entity--It had a very clean and uncluttered design about it. vastly different fron NF

I actually haven't had any problems with NarutoFanPlus so far. I used to use the free manga-leeching site, so when they changed it my link brought me to the new site. I went ahead and subscribed to a month's account since there's no bandwidth cap and I'm on broadband now. I figure, since I was paying to use it, I had no reason to worry about hurting the site by using DAP and getting everything they had. Once I got used to the ftp1/2/etc urls, I pretty much leeched all the manga series I was even remotely interested in within the first two weeks. I liked it for having all the manga in one place, and because I didn't have to feel guilty for 'abusing' the site (since it's a pay site). I would have been a lot more reserved if I were using a free site like this one.

That's not to mention the anime downloads available. I've never been able to get fansubs (dial-up), so it was great having access to complete collections for some of my favorite anime (namely HunterxHunter - long and unlicensed). I suplemented that with working torrents where I could, but it's convenient to have a guarantee that the download will work. I found a few manga links that were bad, but the anime links all worked.

That said, I wish there wasn't a need for a paysite to get fansubs and scanlations. Irc is okay if you can get on a channel that isn't packed with queues, and if you can connect to the servers (difficult with broadband). But bittorrent is much more convenient - if there were more sites with available people to seed the files. Finding direct downloads for large files or large collections is difficult. Bandwidth costs money, and I haven't found nearly as many torrents for manga as I have for fansubs, at least for the anime I'm interested in.

As for the scanlation groups - most of the files that site serves are ones picked up off bittorrent, p2p, and irc. The fansubbers and scanlators have no say in whether or not the site is using their work. Half the files have the names changed so you don't know which group translated them unless you read the credits on the pages/videos. I'm pretty sure no one is asking their permission. A number of the manga being offered there are licensed in the US now, so the scanlators have removed their scanlations from the internet. The fact that the site is still offering them makes it obvious they're going against the scanlators, laws, etc - making money because the scanlators/fansubbers have removed the torrents and that site is now one of the only places to get those files. I don't know if the translators could get the site removed, but I'd bet a few of them have tried. Legally, that site is no different from one selling bootlegs - as long as they're giving out licensed material, it's illegal any way you look at it.

first...

theres a reason why "donations" are called "donations" you know, wheather he diserves it or not thats another story, but it can not be accused of stealing.

people donated the money to keep up the download speed, forum and site reent cost, but for the extra... is it really that wrong to keep it?

btw part of shannaro is actually part of NF


narutofan looks better than stoptazmo

Originally Posted by DEATHwisher

first...

theres a reason why "donations" are called "donations" you know, wheather he diserves it or not thats another story, but it can not be accused of stealing.

people donated the money to keep up the download speed, forum and site reent cost, but for the extra... is it really that wrong to keep it?

btw part of shannaro is actually part of NF


narutofan looks better than stoptazmo

So you're saying that even though he doesn't need it but says he does, it's ok if he still gets donations?

Again with the DEATHwisher? 1cor, please press the PWN button on him. Again.

Originally Posted by DEATHwisher

first...

theres a reason why "donations" are called "donations" you know, wheather he diserves it or not thats another story, but it can not be accused of stealing.

people donated the money to keep up the download speed, forum and site reent cost, but for the extra... is it really that wrong to keep it?

btw part of shannaro is actually part of NF


narutofan looks better than stoptazmo

Yes it can be considered stealing because he says he goes to the site when it really goes to his pockets. When I donate the the Help Katrina Victims , it better go to the victims. It's always considered stealing when it goes somewhere where it's not suppouse to. He's always asking for outrageous donations to keep up the site when probably less than half actually goes to the site. The "extra" goes to himself. Look: It says Donate to NARUTOFAN. not Donate to Tazmo. And who craes if they look better? I forums is 20k times better than that place.

I think I'll rant about the web design.

Warning: Below is a 100% unedited rant about the evils of bad web design. It may offend some people. :P


Where do I start? How about the tables? TABLES FOR A LAYOUT? ALL WRONG! Tables are meant to be used to organize data, not organize a page layout! It's the wrong thing for the wrong use! It's a bad design decision, and bloats the size of the page to horrible heights! Unclean, unclean, unclean!! Tables are the bane of the web developer!

And, you ask, what should one use for web design? <div> and CSS are your FRIENDS! CSS can do almost anything! It even works in Internet Exploder with a little work! It produces a clean, consistent look, with a much smaller size of page. The guy begs for donations, right? CODE BETTER SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS HIGH A BANDWIDTH BILL, DAMNIT!

And while I'm on page sizes... IT'S NOT GZIPPED! Gzipping a page output with PHP is soooooooooooooooo easy it's not even funny! Go to this Gzip checker, enter http://narutofan.com, and hit "Test Page", and see for yourself!

And you wonder just how easy Gzip is to implement? So easy it's not even funny.

Ok, so it is. It's hilarious that a guy needing donations to keep a website running doesn't bother with the simplest method of saving bandwidth: compression.

And while we're on saving bandwidth... Holy images, Batman! Repeat after me... IMAGE MAPS ARE A WASTE. Using image where text + CSS will do? NO, BAD, UNCLEAN, EVIL!

Now, more on the code itself!

Case-randomness in HTML code? Damnit, man, keep your HTML clean and consistent, then it's so much easier to maintain. Changing cases for tags makes it look dirty, and makes it look like it was simply copied from somewhere. Changing the indentation style is sloppy and useless. Save (minor) bandwidth, and make it look clean - skip indentation, and just go for a good syntax-highlighting text editor when coding.


And I'm done with the code and technical side...

Now, the visual side.


CLUTTER. THE DAMN CLUTTER. Web designs should be clean, and clutter-free. Not stuffed with crap. And that huge banner at the top? Pointless! Use 100 pixels, maximum, for banner heights.

Eewww, fixed width layout. Doesn't work in anything other than 800x600 and above. And it'd fill less than half the screen at 2048x1536 or above. So it's ugly. Flexible is always better. It's easier to re-size a browser window to make a flexible layout smaller (on a huge screen), than to buy a new screen to fit a fixed width layout that doesn't fit.

Repeat after me... All capitalization and exclamation marks are tacky in web design. "NarutoFan PLUS!", "New Members Sign Up Today!", "Membership is Free!"... Damnit, man... Use normal letters and no punctuation on navigation items.



.... Ok, I'm done ranting for now... I'm burned out. It's late. Maybe more later.