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    An exceptional post by Yarou.

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    You know, when I logged on to see the response I had gotten for my earlier post, my first reaction was this Moving beyond my shock, I slipped into a fit of laughter. Feeling bad for having laughed at your post, I settled on feeling sorry for you. I then consorted with a friend over your reply and she offered this as a means of vindicating you from your earlier response.


    "That persons no more than 12 at best."


    I replied.


    "I hope youíre right. If they're not, it's truly a sad day for the educational System."


    Now at this point your wondering what I'm talking about? Do not fret, I will explain, and I promise to go SLOW.


    First and foremost dear-heart, itís called READING COMPREHENSION. Please put the wonderful knowledge your grade school teachers took the time to share with you to use. I promise, it doesn't hurt as bad as you may think.


    That being said, on with the show. Seeing how youíre familiar with the short bus, I will take pity on you, and break down what I said for you, and even go even further to explain to you what you said. I know! I'm a sweetheart!





    Now when I first logged on, I distinctly remember saying the following


    My first question is, what exactly has this Tazmo person done or is alleged to have done to have an entire board dedicated to dragging his name through the mud?

    Your reply



    [b]What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of the two best Naruto subbers over Narutofan? Toriyama's World and Shin-Otaku ( now S-O & SD ) did the best Naruto subs ever in my opinion, but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.

    Don't believe me? Look at the recent releases of Naruto before it got licenced. Aone/Anbu's quality went downhill, while S-O/SD beated them up in all aspects, including video and subs quality. Yet, you never heard of them ( compare any episode from 109 till 117 and see what I mean ).
    [/b]

    I then went further to say



    Secondly, I continue to see an argument about he is turning a profit off of being nothing more than a bridge to groups that sub the anime Naruto and/or Translate the Manga. Seriously, I may be asinine, but I canít see the dilemma in this. Instead of seeing only the negatives of this, can you not see the positives? A lot of these groups I for one have never heard of as well as I'm sure I'm not the only one.



    At which you promptly replied



    b]What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of the two best Naruto subbers over Narutofan? Toriyama's World and Shin-Otaku ( now S-O & SD ) did the best Naruto subs ever in my opinion, but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, donít get the attention nor support that they need.

    Don't believe me? Look at the recent releases of Naruto before it got licenced. Aone/Anbu's quality went downhill, while S-O/SD beated them up in all aspects, including video and subs quality. Yet, you never heard of them ( compare any episode from 109 till 117 and see what I mean ).
    [/b]

    I then said



    [b]Most of these groups, while they do sub Naruto, I am almost certain that they sub other anime as well. Because of this, we the consumers are given valuable links to site that may offer anime that we may not otherwise get to see. As result of these groups being listed he is bringing them a steady stream of visitors. I may be wrong, but it seems that the more visitors these groups get the more financing they can receive via donations. This in return enables them to continue to run their sites, maintenance and so forth, as well as continue to deliver subs to their fans. I guess what Iím saying it's a trickle affect. [/b]
    At which you replied.





    b]What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of the two best Naruto subbers over Narutofan? Toriyama's World and Shin-Otaku ( now S-O & SD ) did the best Naruto subs ever in my opinion, but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.

    Don't believe me? Look at the recent releases of Naruto before it got licenced. Aone/Anbu's quality went downhill, while S-O/SD beated them up in all aspects, including video and subs quality. Yet, you never heard of them ( compare any episode from 109 till 117 and see what I mean ).
    [/b]



    Damn your arguments are genius! Tell me, who writes your material?



    I then went on to say all of the following


    Another point I'd like to make is that, Baka-Updates also serves as a bridge between the subbing community and those who download their works. And Iím certain a community as large as Baka-updates are probably churning a nice surplus as far as profit is concerned as well. Yet no one is outraged over their existence.

    Thirdly, this group subs, and while it is small now, I am certain if it continues to put forth quality subs and series that are highly coveted by the anime community, this group too will begin to see a surplus in their donations. Which leads me to ask, if this does occur, will the manager of this group return the excesses of funds to those who donated?

    Something else that bothers me is the fact that most seem outraged that these Subbers and those who act as bridges to the subbers are turning any kind of profit. Why? They are providing a service in a sense. I mean, you find what they are doing reprehensible, yet there are Fan Artist who copy the works of these Japanese Artist every day, take their stolen works to anime conventions and even go so far as posting these copy written material on the net for sell and yet I see no outrage over this. And these artists are not compensating the Japanese artist whose work they've stolen.

    I may be a nut and even going out on a limb, but stopping this kind of thievery would come more as a priority in an effort to protect the Anime Artist work, not throwing a fit over a guy who may or may not get a extra couple hundred bucks each month. Which I may point out, if he is truly giving away gifts on his site, then I would think a percent of that surplus goes towards purchasing these gifts. I'm guessing. Iím not certain.

    I'd like to say once more that I am not taking sides, just looking at thing from a different perspective. I may be wrong for doing so, and if I am, I apologize, but this is just my take on things.




    And once again you wowed the crowd with your debating prowess by saying.



    b]What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of the two best Naruto subbers over Narutofan? Toriyama's World and Shin-Otaku ( now S-O & SD ) did the best Naruto subs ever in my opinion, but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.

    Don't believe me? Look at the recent releases of Naruto before it got licenced. Aone/Anbu's quality went downhill, while S-O/SD beated them up in all aspects, including video and subs quality. Yet, you never heard of them ( compare any episode from 109 till 117 and see what I mean ).[/b]



    Awed by your clever reply to all of my questions and comments, there was no way I could pass over the opportunity to further test your brain power. At first I was frightened. I mean OMG!!! I am in the company of one with such mind boggling perspicacity. Was it possible to walk away unscathed???? Being the dare-devil that I am, I tested fate, and posted again. What would I find once I returned? Only Miss Cleo knew the answer to that, and she's in jail. With no other recourse, I settled in, and began to wait.



    The wait paid off!





    I posted




    Again, I'm not taking sides but I am almost certain that The Naruto Fan site hosted links for more then the Aeon whatever subs. There as Baka, and Aoen, and Saiyaman when he was subbing, and some others I canít name. It appeared to me that he posted links to whomever got the translations done the quickest. As far as quality, I'm not here to debate quality since I really don't care who has subbed a episode as long as its released and I can get my hands on it. In other words I show allegiance to no groups in particular.

    Secondly you eluded the question over the fan artists who are doing far more damage to the anime artist than these fan-subbers are. What about them? They are far more despicable than subbers who are making it possible for us to get the eps in the first place. Who cares if they get a little compensation for, oh I donít know, creating the sites, finding hosting, posting updates and links giving the fandom a community where they can go and share with like minded people, even chat a little. I mean if they're putting in the time to give us something, whatís the harm in them getting something in return? I'm not following the logic of your rebuttal.







    To which you replied





    You came in here saying that Narutofan.com promotes all naruto subbers and what's not. And I came in here to tell you that's the not the case. He favours some fansubbers on others. And I am not a TW/S-O worshipper, but I think they need some support in order to continue their good work. You don't care about fansubs? Well guess what, I CARE and so do others more. I don't like it when I see discrimination against people who are doing good work...simple huh? Try starting a group and do release a High Quality sub between DB and Aone ; see if you get any recognition on NF.......( Fansubbing isn't any easy job by any means ).

    Anyways, that's not the key point of why I hate Tazmo. I frown when I see him discriminating between people' s work, but I despise him when I see him charging money for the fansubs/translated manga he hosts under the name of "covering server costs" and yet, asking for donations when his site is covered with all sorts of ads, which alone ; covers his server costs and whats not.

    Without fansubs or mangas, his site is worth nothing. How does he pay the fansubbers/scanners back? By charging money from their works. Nice huh?

    And now that Naruto is licenced, some groups stopped ( since their intention was to promote Naruto outside Japan - which finally is taking place). I recall Anbu/TW/S-O & SD dropping out, while Aone and DB continueing with Naruto. Unethical? Yes. Does it damage the anime industry in the US? Certainly it does. And how does Narutofan responds? Does it go telling people to support Naruto and buy the DVDs when they're out? Hell NO. He went on and promoted LICENCED fansubs on his site. Sure, why stop now? Let the golden chicken lay more. As if those fansubbers' decision wasn't devastating enough for the anime industry, he takes on the role ( being one of the biggest Naruto sites on the web ) and SPREADS them >_<

    It's ironic how a "fansite" makes buisness out of it's loved anime ; even if it means destroying it in the long turn. If I love that anime ( and I certainly do ) , I do want people to promote and distribute it when it's not here, but I do want to see them SUPPORTING IT when it does,..something Narutofan seems to be failing to do.




    Again, I was left completely speechless. I mean how can anyone argue with that? *shakes head* Call me the dumb ass to try. Are you ready, sweetie? Ok, here we go.


    You came in here saying that Narutofan.com promotes all naruto subbers and what's not

    No actually dear-heart, you said


    What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of the two best Naruto subbers over Narutofan? Toriyama's World and Shin-Otaku ( now S-O & SD ) did the best Naruto subs ever in my opinion, but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.


    To which I replied



    Again, I'm not taking sides, but I am almost certain that The Naruto Fan site hosted links for more then the Aeon whatever subs. There as Baka, and Aoen, and Saiyaman when he was subbing, and some others I canít name. It appeared to me that he posted links to whomever got the translations done the quickest.


    Which you actually concurred in your own post when you said

    but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.

    This statement ironically also agrees with my statement here


    Most of these groups while they do sub Naruto, I am almost certain that they sub other anime as well. Because of this, we the consumers are given valuable links to site that may offer anime that we may not otherwise get to see. As result of these groups being listed he is bringing them a steady stream of visitors. I may be wrong, but it seems that the more visitors these groups get the more financing they can receive via donations. This in return enables them to continue to run their sites, maintenance and so forth, as well as continue to deliver subs to their fans. I guess what Iím saying it's a trickle affect.



    Again where is your logic? I said by hosting these link he also providing these groups with a large amount of traffic from those curious to see what other subs these groups might offer.


    In essence your statement says that Tazmo plays favorite to whom he links. Tazmo has never offered links to your preferred subbing communities, and as result, they are not getting the recognition they deserve. So your beef is he's linking some subbers, but not these two groups you mentioned. Stop contradicting yourself . Are you going to be angry at him for linking or not linking? Which is it? You even go further, and admit that by linking the groups he does link, it is beneficial to those groups. Why else would his habit of linking be so troublesome for the other two groups who are not linked to his site. In essence, sweetness, Taz is acting as a form of advertisement for these groups. Advertisement it seems you favs desperately need from the way youíre getting all heated over this minor issue.




    Like I said youíre brilliant. On with the show.


    You said

    You don't care about fansubs?

    OMFG!!! I laughed my Arse off. This was priceless. Dear-heart, do show where I once stated that I don't care about fansubs. I swear I beat my brain trying to figure out where you came up with this. I read and re-read some more, and the only thing I could see you mis-interpreted was when I said

    I really don't care who has subbed an episode as long as itís released and I can get my hands on it.


    Again, that tricky thing called READING COMPREHENSION comes into play. Since you didn't understand what I meant by that statement, I will break it down for you.


    I want my anime. I don't care which group I download from as long as I can get my hands on the latest epsisodes in a timely manner.


    You said

    I don't like it when I see discrimination against people who are doing good work...simple huh?


    Um...Who is discriminating? Tazmo? Ok again your contradicting yourself. Go on. Admit it. You want him to link those groups, but you're too shy to ask.


    Try starting a group and do release a High Quality sub between DB and Aone ; see if you get any recognition on NF.......( Fansubbing isn't any easy job by any means )
    I never said subbing was easy, but then neither is running those nice little sites so many of us like to visit to get these eps. As far as recognition, pardon me for reading, but I have seen new eps released by- and the name of the group and in some instances, links to the actual sites (i.e. Saiyaman) listed with every new update. Is this something new this Taz guy has implemented in wake of this scandal *shruggs* I have no answer for that, but I do know I have been frequenting the site for its manga downloads for two years now, and I've always seen the name of the group who released the sub listed.


    Anyways, that's not the key point of why I hate Tazmo. I frown when I see him discriminating between people' s work, but I despise him when I see him charging money for the fansubs/translated manga he hosts under the name of "covering server costs" and yet, asking for donations when his site is covered with all sorts of ads, which alone ; covers his server costs and whats not.

    Didn't know you were his financial advisor. Silly me. Explains why you know his financial status and are so concerned over it .


    Without fansubs or mangas, his site is worth nothing. How does he pay the fansubbers/scanners back? By charging money from their works. Nice huh?


    True, but that doesn't just apply to his site, it applies to MANY fansubbing/ Manga Translating sites.



    And now that Naruto is licenced, some groups stopped ( since their intention was to promote Naruto outside Japan - which finally is taking place). I recall Anbu/TW/S-O & SD dropping out, while Aone and DB continueing with Naruto. Unethical? Yes. Does it damage the anime industry in the US? Certainly it does. And how does Narutofan responds? Does it go telling people to support Naruto and buy the DVDs when they're out? Hell NO. He went on and promoted LICENCED fansubs on his site. Sure, why stop now?

    LMFAO!!!!


    OMG!!! First of all, Sho-Pro has not licensed all of Naruto only the first 50 something eps. And whether it was licensed or not, the act of distributing this series and any others without the creators consent, has been illegal long before Sho-pro's quest to bring Naruto to U.S Shores. I'm sure the DVDS were available in Japan before Sho-pro licensed Naruto. How many copies did you order? NONE! OMG !!! WHY??? Ordering strait from the source would have served to help the anime creators even more than waiting until some third party distributor to come onto the scene. Or does the effect Fan subbing has on the anime genre only count when its American dollars to be accounted for? Sorry, Princess, Iím going to ask you to come down off of your moral high horse before you hurt yourself. Last, the only thing thatís going to damage sales of Naruto in America, is SHITTY DUBBING!!! And before you get it twisted, and start mucking up the waters claiming I said things I have not, I happen to be part of a group that supports Naruto being brought to America.


    It's ironic how a "fansite" makes business out of it's loved anime ; even if it means destroying it in the long turn. If I love that anime ( and I certainly do ) , I do want people to promote and distribute it when it's not here, but I do want to see them SUPPORTING IT when it does,..something Narutofan seems to be failing to do.


    Who are you kidding? Letís be real here. First of all, Tazmo doesn't sub anime, he offers links, same as Baka-Updates. Secondly, you're about as concerned with the legalities of fan subbing licensed anime as I am with it. In truth, you use the Legal issue as a last resort to validate your slander of this ONE person. If youíre going to be apart of the save anime from evil Subbers who hurt the market crusade, you may want to start by actually targeting subbers. This is the logical approach. Secondly, ending Tazmo will not end the profiteering of anime by subbing groups. If Naruto fan were to vanish on the web tomorrow, guess what? A new one would move in to take its place. Last, he's not alone in his deeds. Is he wrong or right? I don't know. Don't care. Just wants my anime. What I do know is not fair, is a group of people singling out one person and making him the anti-christ of anime.



    I canít believe I spent so much time on this one issue, but hell, I had fun doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    You know, when I logged on to see the response I had gotten for my earlier post, my first reaction was this :shock: Moving beyond my shock, I slipped into a fit of laughter. Feeling bad for having laughed at your post, I settled on feeling sorry for you. I then consorted with a friend over your reply and she offered this as a means of vindicating you from your earlier response.


    "That persons no more than 12 at best."
    My my oh my? Having trouble already that you had to restore to insults in order to collect whatever's left from your broken pride? We just started and you're already getting desperate :/

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Now at this point your wondering what I'm talking about? Do not fret, I will explain, and I promise to go SLOW.
    Why? I thought you are smart enough to speak out at a good rate ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    First and foremost dear-heart, itís called READING COMPREHENSION. Please put the wonderful knowledge your grade school teachers took the time to share with you to use. I promise, it doesn't hurt as bad as you may think.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Again, I was left completely speechless. I mean how can anyone argue with that? *shakes head* Call me the dumb ass to try. Are you ready, sweetie? Ok, here we go.
    Well, at least you know yourself :)


    You came in here saying that Narutofan.com promotes all naruto subbers and what's not

    No actually dear-heart, you said



    To which I replied


    but Tazmo only puts up whatever comes first along with Aone and Anbu. He ignores the rest for no reason. Thanks to that, those two subbers, despite their good work, dont get the attention nor support that they need.

    This statement ironically also agrees with my statement here


    Most of these groups while they do sub Naruto, I am almost certain that they sub other anime as well. Because of this, we the consumers are given valuable links to site that may offer anime that we may not otherwise get to see. As result of these groups being listed he is bringing them a steady stream of visitors. I may be wrong, but it seems that the more visitors these groups get the more financing they can receive via donations. This in return enables them to continue to run their sites, maintenance and so forth, as well as continue to deliver subs to their fans. I guess what Iím saying it's a trickle affect.



    Again where is your logic? I said by hosting these link he also providing these groups with a large amount of traffic from those curious to see what other subs these groups might offer.


    In essence your statement says that Tazmo plays favorite to whom he links. Tazmo has never offered links to your preferred subbing communities, and as result, they are not getting the recognition they deserve. So your beef is he's linking some subbers, but not these two groups you mentioned. Stop contradicting yourself . Are you going to be angry at him for linking or not linking? Which is it? You even go further, and admit that by linking the groups he does link, it is beneficial to those groups. Why else would his habit of linking be so troublesome for the other two groups who are not linked to his site. In essence, sweetness, Taz is acting as a form of advertisement for these groups. Advertisement it seems you favs desperately need from the way youíre getting all heated over this minor issue.
    Is your ego so broken lately that you couldn't comprehend 4 basic phrases? Here, repeat after me - you might get it after that, though I wouldn't be suprised if you didn't :)

    Tazmo used to promote selected fansubbers, leaving the others out without any advertisement , which evenually make them abandon the project, leaving us with 1 quality subber ( ie : We're screwed if they start doing a shitty job ). Just as he promotes huge advertisement for one group, he should promote advertisment for the other group(s). Sound fair & makes sense, huh? I'd be glad if you understood 20% of that :)

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Like I said youíre brilliant. On with the show.
    Uhm thanks? You didn't have to point the obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    You don't care about fansubs?

    OMFG!!! I laughed my Arse off. This was priceless. Dear-heart, do show where I once stated that I don't care about fansubs. I swear I beat my brain trying to figure out where you came up with this. I read and re-read some more, and the only thing I could see you mis-interpreted was when I said

    I really don't care who has subbed an episode as long as itís released and I can get my hands on it.


    Again, that tricky thing called READING COMPREHENSION comes into play. Since you didn't understand what I meant by that statement, I will break it down for you.
    I am really speechless, you're like a monkey sitting in a cage laughing out loud because you slipped from a banana peel without realising that you're the laughing stock of the zoo :)

    And yes, you don't care about fansubs. You grab whatever is out first and don't care about the rest ( who are *gasp**suprise**drums roll*.....fansubs!!.....like, omg.. )

    Now go back to your reading comprehension excercise, maybe you'll get a hint of what's going on...... maybe.... :)


    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Um...Who is discriminating? Tazmo? Ok again your contradicting yourself. Go on. Admit it. You want him to link those groups, but you're too shy to ask.
    Was that too hard for you to comprehend that you had to waste my time reading all that quote nonsense in the begining? Here's a hint for you : I want him to treat all fansubs the same, linking is just one of the points. Too late dear, that was in the past. Now it's licenced, I want him to take it down. Go look up "Licenced anime" and "ethics of fansubbing" if you didn't get it.


    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003

    I never said subbing was easy, but then neither is running those nice little sites so many of us like to visit to get these eps. As far as recognition, pardon me for reading, but I have seen new eps released by- and the name of the group and in some instances, links to the actual sites (i.e. Saiyaman) listed with every new update. Is this something new this Taz guy has implemented in wake of this scandal *shruggs* I have no answer for that, but I do know I have been frequenting the site for its manga downloads for two years now, and I've always seen the name of the group who released the sub listed.
    Here's a piece of information for you *gasp* : That's a php script Tazmo stripped from Animesuki's Naruto torrents site when Naruto was not licenced ( which is why it's down at the moment in NF ). If he wasn't a lazy ass and coded his own, I doubt you'd find those subbers listed from the first place.


    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Didn't know you were his financial advisor. Silly me. Explains why you know his financial status and are so concerned over it .
    Smoking and Alcohol are bad for you. You better stop quickly before it's too late :/

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    True, but that doesn't just apply to his site, it applies to MANY fansubbing/ Manga Translating sites.
    First quote I had to take seriously, and yes, MANY OTHER sites are in the same position too, including the infamous Animsuki.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    LMFAO!!!!
    Here little little monkey~. Another banana for you :)

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    OMG!!! First of all, Sho-Pro has not licensed all of Naruto only the first 50 something eps.
    Bzz, wrong answer. Doesn't change the fact that it is Licenced.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    And whether it was licensed or not, the act of distributing this series and any others without the creators consent, has been illegal long before Sho-pro's quest to bring Naruto to U.S Shores.
    So Distributing African shows in Russia where it's not even aired is now illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    I'm sure the DVDS were available in Japan before Sho-pro licensed Naruto. How many copies did you order? NONE! OMG !!! WHY???
    *looks at the Naruto DVD 1 laying on the shelf* :)

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Ordering strait from the source would have served to help the anime creators even more than waiting until some third party distributor to come onto the scene. Or does the effect Fan subbing has on the anime genre only count when its American dollars to be accounted for? Sorry, Princess, Iím going to ask you to come down off of your moral high horse before you hurt yourself.
    Go read on why fansubbing exists from the first place and come back again.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Last, the only thing thatís going to damage sales of Naruto in America, is SHITTY DUBBING!!! And before you get it twisted, and start mucking up the waters claiming I said things I have not, I happen to be part of a group that supports Naruto being brought to America.
    You know that the DVDs include Japanese audio / english subs right? I'll still buy the DVDs if I like the series, even if it had the most shittiest dubs. That's how we encourage the producers to release more Naruto.


    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Who are you kidding? Letís be real here. First of all, Tazmo doesn't sub anime, he offers links, same as Baka-Updates.
    I dunno, I thought you're the one kidding here. He doesn't link anime, he HOSTS fansubs and sell them under the name of "server costs". Go check NarutoPLUS.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    Secondly, you're about as concerned with the legalities of fan subbing licensed anime as I am with it. In truth, you use the Legal issue as a last resort to validate your slander of this ONE person. If youíre going to be apart of the save anime from evil Subbers who hurt the market crusade, you may want to start by actually targeting subbers.
    And who said that I never targetted fansubbers? They are the source of the problem, ofcourse. You are pre-assuming alot about someone who you don't know well. Either say something you are sure about or be quiet. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by animechick262003
    . Secondly, ending Tazmo will not end the profiteering of anime by subbing groups. If Naruto fan were to vanish on the web tomorrow, guess what? A new one would move in to take its place. Last, he's not alone in his deeds. Is he wrong or right? I don't know. Don't care. Just wants my anime. What I do know is not fair, is a group of people singling out one person and making him the anti-christ of anime.
    The road to the 1000 miles begins with one step.

    But ofcourse, if you want to continue with this drama , then go ahead. I ll just play around with you and dump you when your expiry is over. Once you're serious again, gimme a shout.

    Till then......
    .
    .
    Here's another banana for you :)

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    My my oh my? Having trouble already that you had to restore to insults in order to collect whatever's left from your broken pride? We just started and you're already getting desperate :/

    Again, READING COMPREHENSION!!! DAYUM!! Get of the short bus already.


    Name calling goes like this. "You are a twelve year old."


    What I said is

    I showed your post to afriend and asked their opinion. That friend in return made the statement below.

    "That persons no more than 12 at best."


    Making a statement dear-heart is not the same as name calling. Get it. I hope so.

    We just started and you're already getting desperate :/

    We??? OMG!!! Are you two people, or suffering from a serious case of split personality?


    *honk-honk* That short bus is calling ya! LMAO!!


    Tazmo used to promote selected fansubbers, leaving the others out without any advertisement , which evenually make them abandon the project, leaving us with 1 quality subber ( ie : We're screwed if they start doing a shitty job ). Just as he promotes huge advertisement for one group, he should promote advertisment for the other group(s). Sound fair & makes sense, huh? I'd be glad if you understood 20% of that



    How is this his problem? Furthermore your backtracking again. First you say he doesn't benefit the site whenhe links them and suddenly he does, and because he doesn't offer to link these two sites, he's now to blame for them going out of business. PHUCKING HILARIOUS!!!! Either he does the subbers a disservice or he does them a service. Which is it? You may want to tell you other self to back off. It's obvoius he confusing you. LMAO!!! And understand 20% of that? ME? The question is do you understand anything your posting? The format goes as follows. Think, then type, not the other way around.


    And yes, you don't care about fansubs. You grab whatever is out first and don't care about the rest ( who are *gasp**suprise**drums roll*.....fansubs!!.....like, omg.. )
    Were you dropped on your head as a child? I'm just curious. Your statement makes no sense. Becuase I take the first released version of an anime without thought to who may have subbed it, I don't care. LMFAO!!! KID....DUDE!! You're kidding, right! *the tears OMG the phucking tears* Dude nice try to cover yur arse with that one, but it wont work. You know it, and those of us who possess that vital skill (READING COMPREHENSION) which you're lacking know that was a failed attempt to smoke screen You quoted me wrong. Be a bigger man/woman whatever and admit you're wrong.


    I said


    Um...Who is discriminating? Tazmo? Ok again your contradicting yourself. Go on. Admit it. You want him to link those groups, but you're too shy to ask.


    Was that too hard for you to comprehend that you had to waste my time reading all that quote nonsense in the begining? Here's a hint for you : I want him to treat all fansubs the same, linking is just one of the points. Too late dear, that was in the past. Now it's licenced, I want him to take it down. Go look up "Licenced anime" and "ethics of fansubbing" if you didn't get it.



    Um...yeah that psuedo statement was hard to comprehend considering unlike you, drit isn't my native language. I prefer coherant, structured sentences as opposed to meritless, rants of a hater. And you want him to treat all subbers the same? Really? Well , he is a thief who lies and steals and doesn't give the subber their do credits, according to you. Since this is how he treat all the other subbing communities, why on eart would you want your favorite subbing communities to be linked to him? I'm not following you.

    And as far as ethics are concerned. Please stop while you're ahead. Yes, I know fansubbing communities are supposed to stop distribution once a series is released in the states,but how often does it happen? And is Tazmo the only dastardly evil doer still releasing these eps? Um... NO!




    Here's a piece of information for you *gasp* : That's a php script Tazmo stripped from Animesuki's Naruto torrents site when Naruto was not licenced ( which is why it's down at the moment in NF ). If he wasn't a lazy ass and coded his own, I doubt you'd find those subbers listed from the first place.



    Wow! You're right. I didn't no that, but if animesuki's not complaining over the matter, why then are you? Eh...I can't hear you. Beside's what you call lazy, the next man may call improvising. Hehe..


    Smoking and Alcohol are bad for you. You better stop quickly before it's too late :/

    So, um... yeah, was that the best you could come up with?


    Bzz, wrong answer. Doesn't change the fact that it is Licenced.




    Um, yes it does. This tid bit of info means, that Sho-pro owns rights to the first fifty odd eps, nothing more. This also means they intend to release those eps only. See how the anime is received here in the states, and depending on how the release does, may or may not license the remaining eps. You dont seriously belive the GOOD OLD U.S is the only nation with licnesing rights? Believe it or not, we do not have a patent on intellect, which means, people outside our boarders *points to rest of world* are aware of the concept of copywrite, and hey make good use of it too. Gah!


    So Distributing African shows in Russia where it's not even aired is now illegal?


    You're not this slow,seriously?







    You know that the DVDs include Japanese audio / english subs right? I'll still buy the DVDs if I like the series, even if it had the most shittiest dubs. That's how we encourage the producers to release more Naruto.


    No thats how you waste your Momma's money. I work too damned hard to pay for something I cant stand listening too. But then, I'm sure that check you get every month for riding the short bus, helps take care of the expenses.


    And who said that I never targetted fansubbers? They are the source of the problem, ofcourse. You are pre-assuming alot about someone who you don't know well. Either say something you are sure about or be quiet. Thank you.

    Really? Your're right, I don't know what goes on outside this forum, but I do know that you've set your whiny ass ( now i'm name calling) on this forum and bitched about matters you can't change. Well, I take that back, hate is an infectious thng and can go a pretty long way. You're definitely hating on him, I can see the green all over ya, so you just might have your way. His site just may be shut down. So I retract that last statement. *shurggs* Will be sad to see him go, but hey, like I said where he leaves off another shall arise.



    And we have reached the end of this post. As before, you skated over the really tough issues. I guess thats a good thing with your limited processing skills. Don't want you to overload that peanut inside your skull over this. And I wont waste my breath answering your last statement. I need that oxygen to scream at the hot bishies on my recently downloaded anime eps. *OOOPS* *Sigh* I really hoped you weren't truly the booger brain (name calling again! See how it works)you came across as. Imagine my dissapointment. Keh! What a fricken waste.


    Ah well, never really got any of my questions answered. Damn it! I'll chalk the existence of the board as a mass hallucination, brought on by the need to feel morally superior to another. No actually , I should say, need of a life that extends outside of the realm of cyberspace.


    No ofense to owner dude of this board. I really like your subs, but I just cant sit back and remain quiet on issues that I see as wrong (mainly what what his/her face had to say). I maintain my position of neutraility on this issue. Hopefully someone who can read, AND, comprehend wil come along to throw in well thought out opinions on this issue.

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