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    jeomaxxters is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    As EST has said, fansub (and scanlation) groups do their work for free, so that the masses can enjoy Manga & Anime. Tazmo should not sell these works, which are the sweat and blood of the groups...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3yearnaruto
    he makes you pay for the time and work spent getting manga like this site but he also lets you get ANIME which this site doesnt offer...The manga doesnt take nearly as much time as the anime does to upload
    I get 300KB/s - 500KB/s on BitTorrent downloading Naruto ANIME, which is obiously faster than silly Narutofan and free. If you want free Direct Download (usually slower ~ 100KB/s), places I have seen are NarutoChaos, in which, the most you have to do is register and click on a link. Also, don't most subing groups say something like 'If you paid for this, you got ripped off!'?
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    r4y_m4n is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    well most people prefer direct download because it can go on max speed (depending on the server) and another reason is that they cannot use bittorrent or any p2p (bcuz they're in college or some other reason)
    --the sites charging you to download is that their excuse is they have to pay the bills for the server


    im not sure if i would be called a noob but....

    you all hate Tazmo because he charges for the anime or a scammer (uses the money that he gets for something selfish)??



    if you all just hate Tazmo and want to stop him, wouldn't it be easier to just tell the members of the subscribers to try other sites

    what i mean is that the current subscribers are only going there because they want direct download, so basically all you have to do is show them other sites [http://danimeftp.com/ (example)] and if they're kind enough and hate tazmo enough, they'll switch site (away from tazmo)
    then when his subscribers are gone, he'll have no money then he'll go bankrupt
    my suggestion on how to notify the subscribers would be to PM all the subscribers (gonna take a long time but if u all hate him that much and want to take him down ....)





    i have a ..... history of not making sense at times, so if that whole sentence didn't make sense juss tell me and i'll try to explain it better

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    This is gong to be my first post, and i usually don't answer toics, (i've been around downloading looking at some of the commetns said around the forums)

    Its not as easy as you say. Everyone knows that, firewall, router problem, where u have to fix everything just to make it so you can download and get more seeds/peers.

    Well first thing, alot of people who tried bittorent for the first time probably don't know the route of the problem. They try Fire wall and it still slow or not going fast enough for them (yes the most common problem is the router or that othe rthingy that i dont' know) Many assume these appliance help direct internet traffic, but in reality it can and probably does act like a second fire wall redirecting those seeds and peers somewhere else. I've experience this where I said, Dad, the router is definitely the route of the problem, and he jsut screams back at me and says no, it not, it doesn't do anything to the connections like blocking it

    Next is when you find out, you ask yourself what do I do to fix it. They then find an answer, and having lazy people in the world, most people go like, screw it, i'm not going to waste time fixing such a troublesome problem. I wonder how many of us in this community actually set up the router to accept bittorent. Unappealling, if theres like over 1000 people, and u get only 40 people out of it (I definitely do, but i'm patient, and i am still trying to fix the router).

    So that goes for anime and maybe some mangas. Now, what about IRC, i know groups that only use IRC and not direct download. I'll leave that to someone else since I dont' use IRC. But from what i see, people don't like it, because they ask people directly, they have to follow rules, they get confused in what to do and they soon may hate the host and say forget it. Silly reasons to hate IRC rite? well unfortunally alot of people like to follow this, which answers the reason for the Manga part. (yes there are groups taht don't let you use direct download and if u missed the update (here for example at latest download) then you're practically would have to be force to eitehr search it on the web for hours, or use IRC. A site that shows no taking down of download sources appeals to them in a way)

    So why is direct download so much more appealling. Well first no program download (silly reason again). Given a sure fact that you're get the download with out it being stopped. Just a simple click and there you're downloading without worrying about seed. People like the things the easy way. Enough to say, oh, so I don't waste time, i'll just spend a little extra then fixing my computer and hooking it up to get the sure way of download.

    Not that many people, realise that with a little effort, you can get nice fast downloads rather then waste money on the way easy. Tazmo must have thought about these factors, direct downloading being appealing then troublesome fire walls and set up a direct downloading anime and manga site to make you pay


    What people should know is y his direct download is (definitely cross the line since its pretty obvious he probably put liscenced companies work) illegal and make a group who decide to take the risk by still translating the work in more jepordy. Still dont' understand y. They could probably overlook the problem if the group wasn't making money, but if they are making money out of works they were liscened to translate, then it will cause great commotion.

    Face it, many companies dont' mind fansubs, because first these groups don't make money, and second, they move out of the way once companies obtain liscenes, meaning that they have a chance to grasp readers who read it online into buying the volumes not yet covered by the fansub group.

    If a simple problem could be solved by just pming people that what they are doing is silly, then the worlds problems could be solved by now. Ok sorry for the exgeration there, it was kind of mean, but most people don't try to understand and take on things their own way.

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    u shouldnt pay anyone who steals anime/manga. dont pay narutofan, dont pay scanlators, dont pay uploaders. u may donate, but make sure its necessary.

    uploading animes isnt as painful as all of u think. i own a big anime upload site. u shouldnt pay me, cos we dont really do much. some of the uploaders have 300+KB/s upload speed. for peeps like me with only 30+KB/s upload speed, it also doesnt take much time to upload 1 full anime series...

    also, tazmo isnt uploading. he just downloads all the shit from the various subbers and scanlators and put them on his servers. there's no need to spend any time at all.

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    I think I understand what Enker is trying to say, but just take in mind what SadistiX said
    u shouldnt pay anyone who steals anime/manga. dont pay narutofan, dont pay scanlators, dont pay uploaders. u may donate, but make sure its necessary.
    I understand why most sites charge you for direct download, and the reason is that they have to pay for the bills such as the server cost. [reasonable]

    But the problem with most sites that make you pay (ex. narutofan) is that their bill for the server is (ex. $500/month) and they're getting money from memberS each month (ex. $2000)

    I personnaly don't think that's necessary, and called stealing (from fansubbers AND from members)

    So just take in mind that if you pay for sites that charge you and you know about this information i just told, your basically paying from someone that steals






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    Tazmo is bullshit, make ppl pay for free things which are not even his work.
    But fortunately for him, there are tons of narutards out there...

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    the problem i have with tazmo is that i heard that he uses the money to buy porn

    and i find that to be incredibly wrong
    porn is free across the internet
    yes there are many pay companies that offer porn, but thier usually over priced or offer weak content

    as for stealing other peoples work and making profit off of it, isnt that illegal? sort of like international copy right violations and stuff?

    why isnt he arrested or at least his site brought down... dont reply to my post if youre just going to say a link that takes me to a place where they have discussed that.

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    lol, you said "why isn't he arrested or his site brought down"
    well if you truly want an answer, it could be....but then all anime sites and manga sites would prob go down as well because they're copyrighted stuff which are not supose to be taken (fansubbed) without permission

    like this site for example, if this site host a licenced manga, it could be taken down (and the site owner could get sue'd)



    and abut the porn thingy.....im very sure that only tazmo and his "friends" (if he has n e) knows that if he buys porn or not, because i kinda doubt that some people online actually know him in real life
    and i really doubt that he would tell other people if he buys porn with his money from the site or not
    so im juss saying that's prob a rumor




    im not really trying to protect him because i hate him myself (bcuz he charges ppl for free stuff)
    im juss trying to explain how things work (such as rumors)

    o yea....and about the porn thingy, im very positive it's a rumor but with the ammount of money that he's getting, he prob does buy porn, and lots of other stuff




    o yea....and if you really want to take his site down and take his money away as well, you could always contact the licenced company (which are a lot since he has a lot of animes on his site)
    and he'll get sue'd by each one of them therefore losing all his money and site
    BUT if his site goes down, he'll prob take all the anime site down with him (starting with this site first prob)
    Last edited by r4y_m4n; 09-02-2006 at 10:39 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SadistiX
    u shouldnt pay anyone who steals anime/manga. dont pay narutofan, dont pay scanlators, dont pay uploaders. u may donate, but make sure its necessary.

    uploading animes isnt as painful as all of u think. i own a big anime upload site. u shouldnt pay me, cos we dont really do much. some of the uploaders have 300+KB/s upload speed. for peeps like me with only 30+KB/s upload speed, it also doesnt take much time to upload 1 full anime series...

    also, tazmo isnt uploading. he just downloads all the shit from the various subbers and scanlators and put them on his servers. there's no need to spend any time at all.
    simply sum up everything I was going to say ;D
    So many users that StopTazmo.com's D/L speed is decreasing significantly. Please Support this site by using StopTazmo's alternative manga links if possible:
    http://stoptazmo.com/showthread.php?t=8098
    http://stoptazmo.com/download-requests-recommendations/8925-anime-manga-direct-downloads-jaqweesss-not-request-thread.html
    http://stoptazmo.com/download-requests-recommendations/257-links-manga-download-sites-updated-01-09-08-a.html

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