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    I am really sad that the download site is down.... because this site is the first and most pleasant site to download (guess I don't know other site to download not only read page by page). I didn't active in the forum. I only download and leave. I am really feel sorry. But, I don't want the site closed. Pay membership maybe a good option and maybe not. A New visitor or member wouldn't want to do that. How about make a committe or something, some members that available to make donation every months. make it a big committe so each person wouldn't pay too much. If you need $100 a month, maybe you can find 100 old and reliable members to donate $1/month. or if you can find more than 100 members maybe they can pay less. Maybe it looks the same as pay membership, but, it won't hesitate new visitor or new member to come, and who know they will be a loyal member someday who can donate. I know it is hard to find that much people, But, stoptazmo has so many members isn't it. I am sure so many people will be at loss if the download gone. Maybe you can start a a thread about who will donate every month, or advertise about this to your connection who have same interest at anime/manga. and for the one who donating you can give credit, title or virtual gift.

    Hm, sorry maybe the idea didn't help much. I just don't want to lose it. and also thank you so much for this site. All thins time I only come and go without saying anything. Thanks a lot for your hardwork. I really don't want the download page is gone.
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    I'm from South Africa as well. Its 10 ZAR to the USD now so I understand your position. Its too bad the site is no longer available. Even if we did contribute now it would not change anything. Shiel requires 100 USD a month consistently to keep the site running. I'm going to miss the convenience of this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimtooth View Post
    Pay membership is a good option. Month and multi month discounts are nice. My wife belongs to an online hentai site and she pays I think $5 a month $30 for a year.


    If you are able to get 100 people to pay 5 a month, then you meet your billing point of $500 a month for every month. That's 4 times extra the cost of running the site, not including hourly.

    I'm thinking about a premium service but what worries me is I tried it in the past, heck we've been running a premium service for years now and never had more than 40-50 signups at anytime at our peak and that was when we used PayPal, now that we switched to BitCoins and Gift Cards that has dropped to 2-4 donations total.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    I'd only okay with a Premium system so you could cover your expenses, making money off of mangas which aren't yours to begin with - that's what I don't support.
    If you're really out to make some profit and don't have the time for ST anymore, then take up other projects. But don't do something you hated others for (I'm not saying you had the intention, it's just what I think).

    You know what, you've got a real point here. This entire site was dedicated to stopping Tazmo from making money off of other peoples work. Kind of kills the entire premium idea, because no longer am I interested in just breaking even, but recurring revenue to earn a profit. It's not right to earn a profit off the hard work of other people either.


    Quote Originally Posted by Anifreak501 View Post
    Yet if you charge membership like that the those of us liveing in other countries (in my case continent) suffer badly. Its a sad thing but nobody is charitable nowadays. Is there a way I can get the manga directly from you mr Shiel? Post you empty dvds for the manga and have you put it on and return to sender? Please? Or another suggestion that perhaps you have?

    Nobody is charitable? Why are so many people in the Manga/Anime community like this? I can't tell you the number of PM/Email's I've got with people acting in a similar manner over the years. I've been running this site since 2004, for the last 2-4 years at the very least I've been losing money. I've just charged the expenses to my CC and ignored the bills for the most part. If I were to send you DVD's, at 4.7GB, 512GB/4.7GB = 108 DVD's. If you would like a suggestion, I suggest you simply locate the manga you want to read online. I'm just not in the business of competing against Netflix, with the sending DVD's out and having them returned.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mario1776 View Post
    The system as described by BlueDemon would completely disincentivize me from coming to StopTazmo. Can I get THIS or THAT particular manga? I come to StopTazmo and THIS manga is available for $1, but I'd have to pay $5 to get THAT manga. It would be the complete antithesis of what StopTazmo has been for me for the past 7 years. I visit the site, get what I want and then leave. A stratified payment system like this would decrease the likelihood of being able to get the manga that I want, so why bother even coming to the site


    I am the cheapest person I have ever known. I do not think of THINGS in terms of money, I think of them in terms of food, such as "Yeesh, that costs 4 days worth of food. No way I'm paying that!" But I would be happy to come to StopTazmo maybe 4 or 5 times a year, and pay $1 to gain access for a month, even if I only wanna download one particular manga and be done. On the other hand I would never pay $5, that is almost two days worth of food! Please, charge me $1 a month, I will throw money at you.... though getting hit by a bunch of coins may not be pleasant...

    I agree that a lot of people would not want to come here if we became a premium site, people rather keep their money when they can instead of buying things. I'm in the same positions especially since I do not have much money. The thing is if I did charge $1/m, only a few people would be paying anyways and if I did launch premium I'd want to be making $500/m or so so this premium idea is probably not going to work out.


    Quote Originally Posted by sora_hime06 View Post
    I am really sad that the download site is down.... because this site is the first and most pleasant site to download (guess I don't know other site to download not only read page by page). I didn't active in the forum. I only download and leave. I am really feel sorry. But, I don't want the site closed. Pay membership maybe a good option and maybe not. A New visitor or member wouldn't want to do that. How about make a committe or something, some members that available to make donation every months. make it a big committe so each person wouldn't pay too much. If you need $100 a month, maybe you can find 100 old and reliable members to donate $1/month. or if you can find more than 100 members maybe they can pay less. Maybe it looks the same as pay membership, but, it won't hesitate new visitor or new member to come, and who know they will be a loyal member someday who can donate. I know it is hard to find that much people, But, stoptazmo has so many members isn't it. I am sure so many people will be at loss if the download gone. Maybe you can start a a thread about who will donate every month, or advertise about this to your connection who have same interest at anime/manga. and for the one who donating you can give credit, title or virtual gift.


    Hm, sorry maybe the idea didn't help much. I just don't want to lose it. and also thank you so much for this site. All thins time I only come and go without saying anything. Thanks a lot for your hardwork. I really don't want the download page is gone.

    Thank you for your feedback. A community leadership might be too much since I guess rates could be determined by a script that would show how much each member would have to pay. If I did open the downloads I'd need to be making $500/m, so that is $500 for the profit + $100 for the server = $600 or 600 members @ $1/m. I'm thinking about all of this and just do not see it happening since I've been trying to get BitCoin donations for a while now with no luck.


    Quote Originally Posted by al217 View Post
    I'm from South Africa as well. Its 10 ZAR to the USD now so I understand your position. Its too bad the site is no longer available. Even if we did contribute now it would not change anything. Shiel requires 100 USD a month consistently to keep the site running. I'm going to miss the convenience of this site.

    I understand it can be hard for those in countries with weak currencies so don't worry too much about donating since I'm not sure we will be reopening the downloads anyways. I'm sure though you will find other sites that are as easy to use as this one.




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    Anyways thank you everyone for your feedback. I guess it's not going to work out to start up premium membership since there is no way to really make as much money as I need to pay for the servers and the return on my time/effort that I'd like. Another thing that worries me is I really don't want to become like Tazmo with all of his premium stuff just to make money. I guess now that I'm older and need the money, it's time for me to move on to other ventures. I'm still open to ideas on how to earn money to keep the site going but I'm not seeing anything myself, and advertising is not going to work.


    I do hope everyone keeps visiting! Thank you all for your feedback.
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    Lol then see you next time
    time to find another manga hosting sites

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    its ok if the mangas are removed. i'll still come back here at stoptazmo. i'm a loyal member as you can see

    long live stoptazmo,
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    Quote Originally Posted by e0ne199 View Post
    Lol then see you next time
    time to find another manga hosting sites
    what a CREEP :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sora_hime06 View Post
    I am really sad that the download site is down.... because this site is the first and most pleasant site to download (guess I don't know other site to download not only read page by page). I didn't active in the forum. I only download and leave. I am really feel sorry. But, I don't want the site closed. Pay membership maybe a good option and maybe not. A New visitor or member wouldn't want to do that. How about make a committe or something, some members that available to make donation every months. make it a big committe so each person wouldn't pay too much. If you need $100 a month, maybe you can find 100 old and reliable members to donate $1/month. or if you can find more than 100 members maybe they can pay less. Maybe it looks the same as pay membership, but, it won't hesitate new visitor or new member to come, and who know they will be a loyal member someday who can donate. I know it is hard to find that much people, But, stoptazmo has so many members isn't it. I am sure so many people will be at loss if the download gone. Maybe you can start a a thread about who will donate every month, or advertise about this to your connection who have same interest at anime/manga. and for the one who donating you can give credit, title or virtual gift.

    Hm, sorry maybe the idea didn't help much. I just don't want to lose it. and also thank you so much for this site. All thins time I only come and go without saying anything. Thanks a lot for your hardwork. I really don't want the download page is gone.
    i dont want this site to be closed too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    Anyways thank you everyone for your feedback. I guess it's not going to work out to start up premium membership since there is no way to really make as much money as I need to pay for the servers and the return on my time/effort that I'd like. Another thing that worries me is I really don't want to become like Tazmo with all of his premium stuff just to make money. I guess now that I'm older and need the money, it's time for me to move on to other ventures. I'm still open to ideas on how to earn money to keep the site going but I'm not seeing anything myself, and advertising is not going to work.

    I do hope everyone keeps visiting! Thank you all for your feedback.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReDHaZexXxHaZeL View Post
    i dont want this site to be closed too
    I also wouldn't like this site to close down, but ultimately you have to realize that everything has to progress. I think I wanted this site to stay really much out of nostalgia (and that's probably even more so for Kane, as he mentioned), but maybe sometimes it's better to let go. There are still some people around and there might still be hope for the forum, so I'd at least leave it open - that way it can still die down on its own, if it wasn't made to become more alive again.

    As for Kane, I really think you should be getting on with life. These past years you've probably provided hundreds of thousands of people with millions of manga chapters (I may be exaggerating, but this is the net, so I might be right xD), so you shouldn't feel bad for giving it up now. Of course, it would be ideal to have some other projects which bring you bring and keep this site on the low-burner, maybe with a form of premium system to cover the costs.

    That's me summing up my thought and propositions, I guess. The rest is up to you, but please to what's right now (for yourself, especially) =)

    Another thought that just came up: have you thought on "fusioning" or something like that with some other manga guys? Would that be an option?

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    why not use torrents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReDHaZexXxHaZeL View Post
    its ok if the mangas are removed. i'll still come back here at stoptazmo. i'm a loyal member as you can see

    long live stoptazmo,
    Thank you very much for your support and please do keep visiting!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    As for Kane, I really think you should be getting on with life. These past years you've probably provided hundreds of thousands of people with millions of manga chapters (I may be exaggerating, but this is the net, so I might be right xD), so you shouldn't feel bad for giving it up now. Of course, it would be ideal to have some other projects which bring you bring and keep this site on the low-burner, maybe with a form of premium system to cover the costs.

    That's me summing up my thought and propositions, I guess. The rest is up to you, but please to what's right now (for yourself, especially) =)

    Another thought that just came up: have you thought on "fusioning" or something like that with some other manga guys? Would that be an option?
    Thank you for understanding. I'd like to spend a lot of time building iOS/Android apps which is where I think my time might be better served and possibly make some money that way

    I just spoke to a few people today and even they are taking my idea of exiting this Anime/Manga community to work on other projects. I think Premium membership might be out of the question since most people are not going to donate through BitCoin I hate to say.

    I'm not against fusioning, not fully sure what that would entail but I don't know too many other manga webmasters. I do know perhaps 5-6 but all of them are exiting this market so if you know anyone I might be interested.

    Thank you very much for taking the time to leave feedback everyone!
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