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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeDestructor View Post
    Similar issue here. I hop on the site ever 2-12 months, and then download maybe 20-30 chapters then leave again for a long time. I can't be counted on for heavy donations. On the other hand, have you considered switching to an index format that links to scanlators homepages or something? Just not serving the downloads would be a hefty savings...

    Alternatively, have you considered getting a cheap dedicated server from somewhere like ovh? Their "small" SP-16G box (https://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/sp_16g.xml) is 50 of unlimited bandwidth, decently high-performance gear. I know its not much, but it from 100$ to under 70$ is a fairly decent savings. Of course, I'm not counting licenses for software or "prebuilt" setups, but there's enough free software and whatnot that it should be possible to not need licenses at all...
    We'd have to stick with our current provider because of DMCA issues might cause some problems. The other thing is if I run the site I'd like to make a profit. I'm thinking of starting a few sites designed for adsense and profit that way. I'm getting older so I need a ROI (return on my investment, which would be time) for certain. I understand there are a lot of people in your position too who only visit so often and I could not depend on you for donations, that's totally ok. I've gotten emails from people saying they are in HS/College and have no money and otherwise they would donate but to keep up the good work. I've been there myself so I am understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anifreak501 View Post
    If I could help I would with great pleasure.if I lived in america or a better country I would donate the full amount every month as Manga is one of my biggest joys and seriously this site is in my top 3 most visited. If this site does come back up or you change to a different server please let me know Mr Shiel at mixisme@gmail.com
    I'm trying to keep the site up, at least as a forum but probably no manga anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by drsnowman View Post
    An easy way of avoiding all these costs I think would be to use a file sharing site. This way you can upload files online and allow people to download the files without a cost to you or the person downloading the file.
    No way I could manage all the links, ensure they are valid, etc. It would work if I had 10 series, but not 450+.


    Thank you everyone for your feedback. If anyone else has anything to say/suggest I'm open to it but unless payments come in to pay the bills, we are probably going to have to continue without the Manga.
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    Well I'm jobless. I've been trying since november last year but to no avail. And drsnowman sorry if I offended but I didn't mean better living I meant better credit value.

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    If anyone knows of an site where I can download manga as nicely as this please let me know at mixisme@gmail.com. I am going crazy without it

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    I am sorry for your loss. I have long been a fan of stoptazmo (even though I've never donated). It is disappointing that you no longer provide manga downloads, but the truth is you have probably incurred the greatest loss of all.... considering you have spent years working to keeping the site up and running. Thank you for all the work you have done, and I wish you the best of luck in your present and future endeavors.

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    Have you considered using p2p torrenting to share manga? You being a centralized source of manga would be as problematic with p2p as it is with direct downloading when it comes to the expense of bandwidth for uploading GBs of data. But, if you were to distribute manga to a few reliable people, then those people could bear the burden of uploading data to ppl coming to stoptazmo to download manga. As an individual the amount of work required has become untenable for you, an effort from an entire community could serve everyone's needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario1776 View Post
    I am sorry for your loss. I have long been a fan of stoptazmo (even though I've never donated). It is disappointing that you no longer provide manga downloads, but the truth is you have probably incurred the greatest loss of all.... considering you have spent years working to keeping the site up and running. Thank you for all the work you have done, and I wish you the best of luck in your present and future endeavors.

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    Have you considered using p2p torrenting to share manga? You being a centralized source of manga would be as problematic with p2p as it is with direct downloading when it comes to the expense of bandwidth for uploading GBs of data. But, if you were to distribute manga to a few reliable people, then those people could bear the burden of uploading data to ppl coming to stoptazmo to download manga. As an individual the amount of work required has become untenable for you, an effort from an entire community could serve everyone's needs.
    Torrents were suggested before and I rejected the idea. I'm really just looking to exit the Manga/Anime community and instead of investing my time on a site that makes no money, I want to spend my time on a site that can make me some money to help pay for my own house and car when the time comes. If I did go the torrent route, I'd still be working on a site that does not make money. ST might have got a decent amount of traffic before, but it's worthless if it's traffic does not convert and that is simply the problem I cannot get around.

    Another option might be to switch ST directly to premium for a while and see how that goes. No one can download/read unless you pay money. What do people think about that?
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    Pay membership is a good option. Month and multi month discounts are nice. My wife belongs to an online hentai site and she pays I think $5 a month $30 for a year.

    If you are able to get 100 people to pay 5 a month, then you meet your billing point of $500 a month for every month. That's 4 times extra the cost of running the site, not including hourly.

    If you have 2000 paid customers, it gets higher from there, etc.

    But the original reason you made the site was to prevent people from being ripped off and paying for a membership to Tazmo, unfortunately you've seen the reality of the world and w/out adds to pay for it, then a membership is the way to go.

    With 300,000 visitors stated in a previous post, if you charge $1.00 a month for unlimited downloads, then you would be coming a head.

    For a dollar, that would allow people in parts of the world who have to work harder to earn the the amount, an easier to attain goal.

    For those of us who wouldn't mind to do a pay for a year route, you could charge 10 dollars and we'd be golden for a year.
    Now I am not saying that you will come out and get 200,000 pledges of 10 dollars, making you 2 million bucks, but if you have 1000 people this year pay 10 bucks, you get 10k.

    I've loved your site for years, and it's been here for me from thick and thin. You have brought me happiness and joy when the light of life has been at it's most dim.

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    A tiered premium system would be great, I think. Let's say that if you pay 5 dollars per month, you can download all series. Pay 2.5 $, half of them. Pay 1$, only the most mainstream ones. Was only an example.

    What grimtooth said about the original goal of this site is also to be taken into consideration, of course. I'd only okay with a Premium system so you could cover your expenses, making money off of mangas which aren't yours to begin with - that's what I don't support.
    If you're really out to make some profit and don't have the time for ST anymore, then take up other projects. But don't do something you hated others for (I'm not saying you had the intention, it's just what I think).

    And I guess you could give this premium stuff a go, but I don't know how complicated it'd be for you to get on another server again and that whole jazz.

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    Yet if you charge membership like that the those of us liveing in other countries (in my case continent) suffer badly. Its a sad thing but nobody is charitable nowadays. Is there a way I can get the manga directly from you mr Shiel? Post you empty dvds for the manga and have you put it on and return to sender? Please? Or another suggestion that perhaps you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anifreak501 View Post
    Yet if you charge membership like that the those of us liveing in other countries (in my case continent) suffer badly. Its a sad thing but nobody is charitable nowadays. Is there a way I can get the manga directly from you mr Shiel? Post you empty dvds for the manga and have you put it on and return to sender? Please? Or another suggestion that perhaps you have?
    In that case, you use your own damn time to search for the manga on the internet. It's not like Stoptazmo is the only site for that...

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    Default Please, charge me $1 a month.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    Pay 2.5 $, half of them. Pay 1$, only the most mainstream ones.
    The system as described by BlueDemon would completely disincentivize me from coming to StopTazmo. Can I get THIS or THAT particular manga? I come to StopTazmo and THIS manga is available for $1, but I'd have to pay $5 to get THAT manga. It would be the complete antithesis of what StopTazmo has been for me for the past 7 years. I visit the site, get what I want and then leave. A stratified payment system like this would decrease the likelihood of being able to get the manga that I want, so why bother even coming to the site

    Quote Originally Posted by grimtooth View Post
    charge $1.00 a month for unlimited downloads
    I am the cheapest person I have ever known. I do not think of THINGS in terms of money, I think of them in terms of food, such as "Yeesh, that costs 4 days worth of food. No way I'm paying that!" But I would be happy to come to StopTazmo maybe 4 or 5 times a year, and pay $1 to gain access for a month, even if I only wanna download one particular manga and be done. On the other hand I would never pay $5, that is almost two days worth of food! Please, charge me $1 a month, I will throw money at you.... though getting hit by a bunch of coins may not be pleasant...

 

 
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