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    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    is just an camsite
    well he just owns the site and domain names
    the models come from another company which he's a partner of

    mastering Unity or personally like me coding your own engine from scratch
    actually this is the easy part
    the hard part is to get content or your digital assets for your game projects
    vice versa, 3d modelers/artist have the same problem with implementing physics, engine and other stuffs
    I agree with you that whether code or graphics depends on your skill set, my problem is graphics wise, but luckily there are asset stores for people like me. The 3d modelers who are not strong programmers are the ones who will face problems since it costs a lot to hire someone to code something vs buying graphic assets for your game.
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    Hej Kevin, Just want to say thanks a million for the contribution through (was it 2005 ?) until now. Whether it was here or elsewhere it's appreciated. I've always felt that having a server to pay for was a service to the community (spoiling them/us), but also a way to make us vulnerable. unfortunately having a server means you'd have to run a "business" or shoulder the cost yourself. It's been quite a while since I've come here to take a look, so I was surprised. But with android apps, etc. the sources are quite endless. perhaps You could make an app for ST.

    Personally I think every leech should contribute by their own means, some has tech skills, others money, and more than a few would like to feed the swarm from time to time, if only it was easy and low risk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saithan View Post
    Hej Kevin, Just want to say thanks a million for the contribution through (was it 2005 ?) until now. Whether it was here or elsewhere it's appreciated. I've always felt that having a server to pay for was a service to the community (spoiling them/us), but also a way to make us vulnerable. unfortunately having a server means you'd have to run a "business" or shoulder the cost yourself. It's been quite a while since I've come here to take a look, so I was surprised. But with android apps, etc. the sources are quite endless. perhaps You could make an app for ST.

    Personally I think every leech should contribute by their own means, some has tech skills, others money, and more than a few would like to feed the swarm from time to time, if only it was easy and low risk.

    We have been open since late Oct 2004. A very long time. I'm glad to see an old member return to comment. I did think about making an App for ST but the thing is I was not breaking even with ~400k unique visitors per month and because of that, I figured that if with all this traffic there is not enough money coming in to fund the site that the additional users from Android/iOS phones/tablets would probably be more work for me. It would require maintaining the code base and I was not sure we would bring in enough traffic to make things worth while.

    Your idea of every member contributing in the best way they can sounds great in theory but I found very few dedicated uploaders, except for one of them when I requested help maintaining our Manga database and because of that experience I determined that there was no way I could count on others. It really did not leave me with many options other than to close the site. Each month we lost money, I was thinking of spending a few solid weeks to testing some new features I had created months prior to see if that helped but then I realized that what I was investing in would be from an economic background, as sunk costs. The money and time I had invested into this site was gone and that it would be better to find another project to invest my time into that might yield a better return.

    In either event, the only thing that would get us back up and running would be if enough donations came in to make it worth my while.

    Another huge factor that effected my choice was something that I do not believe I spoke about, but I got a lot of emails from people and it was always nothing but complaints, people would leave insulting messages about not having a certain manga series, asking why we only had a few thousand series, some people mentioned they could not download and these messages were said in a way that was often mean/rude, others asked for strange things, spammed the inbox with dozens of the same messages, etc. I thought each time I read these messages that not a single one of these people probably donated a cent to keep the site going and that I sensed a great deal of people were simply unconcerned by the time and money I invested to keep the site going (Time especially), and eventually it got to the point where I would just not read the messages or check the inbox for a while.

    I'd like to thank you though for returning here and for the kind words though, that really means a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    Another huge factor that effected my choice was something that I do not believe I spoke about, but I got a lot of emails from people and it was always nothing but complaints, people would leave insulting messages about not having a certain manga series, asking why we only had a few thousand series, some people mentioned they could not download and these messages were said in a way that was often mean/rude, others asked for strange things, spammed the inbox with dozens of the same messages, etc. I thought each time I read these messages that not a single one of these people probably donated a cent to keep the site going and that I sensed a great deal of people were simply unconcerned by the time and money I invested to keep the site going (Time especially), and eventually it got to the point where I would just not read the messages or check the inbox for a while.
    What the fuck!? There really are people like that? Ughh, how low can people get?

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    should have known.
    these angry internet neets are all alike.

    also should have start a hentai site selling dildos and waifu pillows for bitcoins

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    What the fuck!? There really are people like that? Ughh, how low can people get?
    Yeah, and they seemed to be a huge army. They would complain about everything, that they did not like the background on the site, that the site loaded slow for them (Non US visitor), had issues downloading (Never posted on the site to get assistance, I assume creating an account would be too much trouble, even when emailing they gave no details at all so nothing I could do). We had an advertiser contact page too that they would spam. Some of them would just enter random characters and submit the page a few different times. I mean I've never met people who complained as much as these folks and I'm 99% sure that none of them ever donated a penny to the site. Plenty of these folks were rude as well.

    It led me to stop checking email for a period of time, and in one case I had to post a message somewhere on this site for people to send me another email if they sent something off important since our inbox filled up and I did not get any more emails for a few weeks to a month, can't remember for sure. I should have known though since I was thinking to myself, where the heck did all these guys go, have not seen an email from any of them in ages.

    Quote Originally Posted by R3dKnight View Post
    should have known.
    these angry internet neets are all alike.

    also should have start a hentai site selling dildos and waifu pillows for bitcoins
    They are alike for sure. Not into the sex toys stuff so I'll pass on that, but I'm sure there would be a market for it.

    Even after all of this though, I have to admit that I'd like to keep ST going. I'm curious but anyone think there would be a market for a Manga site that charges you to view/download, and pay via Bitcoin? Kind of goes against the idea I wanted for this site, to keep things free though but it's been in the back of my mind, probably leave it as an idea but something I've been considering.
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    Maybe you should take a look into what Crunchyroll is doing. Maybe you already did, but maybe you can partner yourself with an official manga/anime distributor and have some affordable prices. Don't know how easy it would be to get into the market, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    Maybe you should take a look into what Crunchyroll is doing. Maybe you already did, but maybe you can partner yourself with an official manga/anime distributor and have some affordable prices. Don't know how easy it would be to get into the market, though.
    It's been a long time since I visited Crunchyroll, almost a year. The issue with that is I could not get donations even, so I do not know how feasible something like that would be in the long run, especially if I had to reach deals to partner with distributors. It was just a thought though that I've been considering. Thanks for the tip.
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    Happy to help
    Can't hurt to look into it, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post

    Even after all of this though, I have to admit that I'd like to keep ST going. I'm curious but anyone think there would be a market for a Manga site that charges you to view/download, and pay via Bitcoin? Kind of goes against the idea I wanted for this site, to keep things free though but it's been in the back of my mind, probably leave it as an idea but something I've been considering.
    Hey, how are you? I joined shortly before the downloads were removed from the site and couldn't really keep up with what was going on here since I didn't have internet at my house at the time. I was a member at another site that had a problem just like yours, namely funding. The bottom line there was that you will always have more people who want everything free while paying for/ contributing nothing. The other site that had high traffic, but low donations. After much debate behind the scenes a few things happened. One, the original owner sold the site to a long time member because he was sick of the funding issue. Two, the site was linked to a sex toy site, as decided he new owner . Three, ads were inserted at regular intervals within the forum thread, as well as on all of the main pages. Those measures saved the site. Selling the site is not a necessity, but what happened at the other site was only a result of an open mind. The old owner didn't want to be linked to a sex toy shop, nor did he want ads, but without both the site would have been closed.

 

 
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