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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    I can only wish you good luck for those other project (yet again ), I really don't think this site could really become profitable (to an extent, at least)...
    I've been thinking for a while, what I should do is post a page trying to raise $500, once we get that much, I use it to get a server and keep the site open for 3-5 months or something, and then turn ST into a site where members can download, have the latest manga, etc. What would you guys think of that? I'd send a mass email. I already thought of doing this years ago, but I came to the conclusion that our members would not be willing to pay.

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    Not even that is profitable anymore, too many sites already!
    It's harder to run an Adult porn site than a Anime/Manga site I hate to say it. I pay attention since I know the community well and most are giving up on the market, the people making the real money are the ones creating and selling the content.
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    I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it at least - I mean, worst case scenario, you wouldn't get the 500 and you'd just...send the money back or something? And then you at least know for sure there isn't any interest.

    In my case - and I want to be honest on this - I am over the stage of downloading manga. So I wouldn't donate, because I simply don't download anything. And even if you bring the manga reader back, there are still the old sites one can visit...
    And even if I'd like to donate (which I'd probably do for old time's sake), the payment method you'll introduce will probably be something I'd have to make a new account for etc....so too much trouble :/

    So most of the members might still be interested in downloading mangas, but you should also take into account those who might have lost interest, like I did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    the people making the real money are the ones creating and selling the content.
    hmmmmmmm
    I should go for a career change

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDemon View Post
    I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it at least - I mean, worst case scenario, you wouldn't get the 500 and you'd just...send the money back or something? And then you at least know for sure there isn't any interest.

    In my case - and I want to be honest on this - I am over the stage of downloading manga. So I wouldn't donate, because I simply don't download anything. And even if you bring the manga reader back, there are still the old sites one can visit...
    And even if I'd like to donate (which I'd probably do for old time's sake), the payment method you'll introduce will probably be something I'd have to make a new account for etc....so too much trouble :/

    So most of the members might still be interested in downloading mangas, but you should also take into account those who might have lost interest, like I did...
    I'm still thinking about things. I'm in the same position as you are, no longer interest in manga, I still read Naruto but other things are taking up my time. You do have a real good point about all the competition out there giving things away for free, and that is what worries me, why pay for something when all other sites out there could be giving it away for free. The only payment method we could accept would be Bitcoin, and I know that many people in the Anime community may not have that, which leaves me with accepting prepaid gift cards, which are expensive since you normally have to buy them + pay an activation fee. It it was not for all the competition I'd have started things much sooner, my gut tells me I should just forget about things and move on and that might win out.

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    hmmmmmmm
    I should go for a career change
    I think going for such a career though has a stigma, the sleezy porn guy, always looking for young girls to shoot. There are a lot of costs involved too for cameras and paying the girls, editing, it's a hard job. Not sure what the return, money wise is but there seems to be a number of guys making good money doing it. The real trick I think is figuring out how to sell the content.
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    ... żIt's posible get your manga DB? I run a not profitable site, I can't look for profit to maintain the site under my country laws. An the host is free. Let me maintain the DB in this site anyway if you are going to other ways.

    More and more sites are faling and people looking for manga can't get them T_T

    Think about it, please. The manga DB may not to be lost.

    Thanks for your words. Help us to maintain mangas on air ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    sleezy porn guy
    Well the "girls" are the product
    Yeah it will take alot of investment and time to edit everything.
    also most of your profit will be paying off the girl

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    Android games, even RPG or anime/manga related games, or games consoles are profitable ads. Annuncement of game events move great amount of people. More if those are associated with the anime/manga' scene. Manga magazines need of advertisement in not asian countries, in their foreing editions. Merchandising manga's articles shops, like PVC figures need ads on... And a large etc. A good point of view give you the start and the goal. A blind one, reserve you nothing! - I think those was Benjamin Franklin words... Probably he catched from a classic author like Caesar i.e. XD

    If you keep the manga DB I have a free site or two where upload it, if you are going to abandon the manga way, let other people follow it, in my origin country I can't maintain a profitable site, 'couse it we continue serving free manga downloads with our own expenses in premium accounts, hosted in free servers, managing codenamed files with password, because there are D.O.G.s all around pursuing the culture fansub way. We eliminate the lcensed works in my origin country, if DMCA's barking around we have our sovereign authority like country, while not is licensed here, they have nothing to do HERE. That's the cuestion, many countries by alignment with them, or by afraid to them kiss their asses. 'Cause they have allowed it, we must charge with their delusions of grandeur... All their acolytes dance by their song... We can be allies, but not their laws marionettes. We not commit any offence, 'cause many of us buy more manga when we have knowledge about them than their thinking about "conspiracy paranoias" about profit losses. If it were not for fansub why is the "manga" word all around the world? By their pretty D.O.G.s faces? They pursuit dictators, but dictate their impositions. Bah! I think I've written too much, sorry for the raged words ;D

    Greetings and ... Fight!!
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    ... Porn? Well if you navigate in the Net, you have going to find the same you talked about free manga sites: too many free porn sites - including hentai and 3D porn animations -. Then you must think about cameras, filters, sound systems, dubbing, reccord and mix systems, decorates... Cheap motel rooms or rental houses, voyages to special locations like Ibiza, Center European countries; poor needed young girls - normaly drug hanged ones - to use and abuse -. Ah! sorry but your site will not be advertised by Google, or Blogger and their companies; they have a new policies campaign against human abuse, use, like prostitution, and all the world about it, included videos and pictures, many sites have being erased, Youtube is monitoring and erasing all porn material... You choose a wrong way in the Net. And there are KINGS in this TRADE WAY like Playboy, Penthouse, Private Cny., Papillon, etc. Well you can aspire to be one of their minions... Private Cny. look for franchise associated i.e.

    No Google promotion, no knowledge about the site... And you can be pursuit by International Human Rights Laws. And so on again. We arrived to the same place... Nothing more than those ideas?

    I'm going to reprime my laugh by respect.

    Bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcorpse View Post
    ... żIt's posible get your manga DB? I run a not profitable site, I can't look for profit to maintain the site under my country laws. An the host is free. Let me maintain the DB in this site anyway if you are going to other ways.

    More and more sites are faling and people looking for manga can't get them T_T

    Think about it, please. The manga DB may not to be lost.

    Thanks for your words. Help us to maintain mangas on air ;D
    I deleted the Manga from the server and my computer only has an older backup somewhere, would be too hard to get the Manga DB. The real thing is, although we had thousands of series, only the top 25 were really read (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc). Most of the traffic involved updates, with update release days being the highest visited day of the week. You can collect all of the main series pretty easily. There are a lot of sites that have Manga readers for the more popular series, which kind of kills the need for ST, as much as it hurts me to admit to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcorpse View Post
    Android games, even RPG or anime/manga related games, or games consoles are profitable ads. Annuncement of game events move great amount of people. More if those are associated with the anime/manga' scene. Manga magazines need of advertisement in not asian countries, in their foreing editions. Merchandising manga's articles shops, like PVC figures need ads on... And a large etc. A good point of view give you the start and the goal. A blind one, reserve you nothing! - I think those was Benjamin Franklin words... Probably he catched from a classic author like Caesar i.e. XD

    If you keep the manga DB I have a free site or two where upload it, if you are going to abandon the manga way, let other people follow it, in my origin country I can't maintain a profitable site, 'couse it we continue serving free manga downloads with our own expenses in premium accounts, hosted in free servers, managing codenamed files with password, because there are D.O.G.s all around pursuing the culture fansub way. We eliminate the lcensed works in my origin country, if DMCA's barking around we have our sovereign authority like country, while not is licensed here, they have nothing to do HERE. That's the cuestion, many countries by alignment with them, or by afraid to them kiss their asses. 'Cause they have allowed it, we must charge with their delusions of grandeur... All their acolytes dance by their song... We can be allies, but not their laws marionettes. We not commit any offence, 'cause many of us buy more manga when we have knowledge about them than their thinking about "conspiracy paranoias" about profit losses. If it were not for fansub why is the "manga" word all around the world? By their pretty D.O.G.s faces? They pursuit dictators, but dictate their impositions. Bah! I think I've written too much, sorry for the raged words ;D

    Greetings and ... Fight!!
    I'd like to thank you for everything you've done to help. The issue really is not with the licensed works, I can get around that very easily, I hosted with offshore hosts for the Manga and site before which saved us a lot of problems with take down requests. The Manga DB is really too huge in the first place to just host somewhere, I think it was like 550GB, and for the Manga gallery, it was like 300-500GB depending upon the conversion settings, we had, meaning at least 850GB in Manga or more. No point in hosting it all, since most was never seen or read. People wanted the major series, although there were at times over visiting and reading the lesser known series.

    I agree though that the DMCA issues and copyrighted work has gotten out of hand and really only serves to shutdown new ideas and their spread, I hope patent reform takes place, since all I seem to hear about is patent trolls. Many people still think the DMCA applies to other countries, and don't understand that U.S law is not the worlds law. I'm not sure anyone is actually buying Manga though, I see a lot of free loaders in the Manga community, I have no doubt there are some purchasers out there, but if they exist, they are few and far between.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcorpse View Post
    ... Porn? Well if you navigate in the Net, you have going to find the same you talked about free manga sites: too many free porn sites - including hentai and 3D porn animations -. Then you must think about cameras, filters, sound systems, dubbing, reccord and mix systems, decorates... Cheap motel rooms or rental houses, voyages to special locations like Ibiza, Center European countries; poor needed young girls - normaly drug hanged ones - to use and abuse -. Ah! sorry but your site will not be advertised by Google, or Blogger and their companies; they have a new policies campaign against human abuse, use, like prostitution, and all the world about it, included videos and pictures, many sites have being erased, Youtube is monitoring and erasing all porn material... You choose a wrong way in the Net. And there are KINGS in this TRADE WAY like Playboy, Penthouse, Private Cny., Papillon, etc. Well you can aspire to be one of their minions... Private Cny. look for franchise associated i.e.

    No Google promotion, no knowledge about the site... And you can be pursuit by International Human Rights Laws. And so on again. We arrived to the same place... Nothing more than those ideas?

    I'm going to reprime my laugh by respect.

    Bye!
    You bring up something that I've been hearing a lot about, there is a huge porn crackdown by Google, it's killing a lot of sites and Google seems to make it clear they are after them. I hear a lot of them are losing their search engine ranks, who knows they might disappear from Google. There are still plenty of ways to find the Adult sites and that might lead to people turning away from Google for some search queries, which might become dangerous over time so I wonder how far things will be taken. Not all of the Girls in porn are stupid or on drugs, there are some smart businesswomen who figure that it would work out well for them and they could make a good living off it. They are hard to be found but it's interesting how many women go into porn to build a brand to increase the money they can get in the strip clubs and those kinds of establishments too that I never realized before. Perhaps one day their will be some kind of breakdown on the choices that are made leading to a career in porn and what their goals really were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    ... there are some smart businesswomen who figure that it would work out well for them and they could make a good living off it. They are hard to be found but it's interesting how many women go into porn to build a brand to increase the money they can get in the strip clubs and those kinds of establishments too that I never realized before. Perhaps one day their will be some kind of breakdown on the choices that are made leading to a career in porn and what their goals really were.
    Yeah! I overtalk a little, certainly there are some great businesswomen in the genre - Asia Carrera i.e. -, but nowadays more of porn is focused on false castings and the youngest girls abuse - almost bare 18 -... More of them can almost simulate their haematomas, marks an spanking traces. Sadly more of those films may be forbidden, but many rarities are permitted. Many good porn actress finished - with good ending - their carreer and nowadays are normal citizens, family mothers, etc. Sadly other no. like Savanah... Well no more with this theme...

    Many of those you called secondary mangas are readed on my sites - better said, downloaded -. I have a one TB account to full with more and more - three free accounts of 50GBs at full capacity occupied - I lost three accounts and a premium one - my mate in the battleground lost four accounts too -, it was a hard shock; unfortunately more and more manga scan provider are falling, and increasingly we depend on fansubes directly more and more. But many of their links have fallen alike. Not all people want to read online, lately they download the mangas to ebooks, or iphones, tablets, etc... Here you go with another type of advertisement can you provide profit ... err donation

    Sorry to maintain the curse of the post, I think you must be tired in the time, you think was a waste; but believe me: many people was hopping more than those you call "well-read" mangas, I hate Naruto, One Piece, Bleach... ... ... I'm more sybarite about manga, all kind of them - not yaoi, this is and especiallity of a female member on my group - XD

    Thanks for the good talk!
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