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    We've got another spammer named s0vietworm.

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    Damn, I can't take a break can I.

    I removed the spam and will have to look into how I can stop these guys but it seems they are manually verifying their accounts or something.

    Here is my status:

    I spent all weekend on a 10GB Manga update to post missing chapters along with today. I still have about 5GB of Manga left to upload but I have to find missing chapters so we have them all but I might just upload what I have. Tomorrow (7th) I am taking a break and will see if I can find some better method to stop these guys.

    I also wanted to note that I will be sending a mass email out on Friday at the latest telling everyone we are back so I am trying to do as much as I can. If you don't see me on the forums too much for the next few days, don't worry I've just been spending my time on IRC/web collecting Manga and have a lot more to go.

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    yeah...
    those spammer are a curse.

    Somehow I have doubts on using email that may activate alots of spambots
    but don't forget my advice using Facebook

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    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...nga-scan-sites

    it seems like ST will have a very hard time ahead.
    with all those Anti-Scanlation

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    Please read this.

    Kane, it's good to hear that you're taking care of ST again.

    But there are several things that have changed the circumstances of the scanalation community in the last few months, and I want to give you a short update of it.

    First, Tazmo isn't the main threat of the scanlator community anymore. There were a lot of events that changed the rules significantly.

    Today, ANN made this announcement:

    U.S., Japanese Publishers Unite Against Manga Scan Sites (Updated)

    Quote Originally Posted by ANN
    The 36 publishers in Japan's Digital Comic Association and several American publishers are forming a coalition to combat the "rampant and growing problem" of scanlations — illicit digital copies of manga either translated by fans or scanned directly from legitimate English releases.

    The coalition asserts that "scanlation aggregator" sites "now host thousands of pirated titles, earning ad revenue and/or membership dues at creators' expense while simultaneously undermining foreign licensing opportunities and unlawfully cannibalizing legitimate sales." Google lists one site on its list of the 1,000 most-visited sites on the web. An unnamed spokesperson for the coalition also pointed to smartphone applications designed to read such sites as an escalation of the problem.

    The coalition is reportedly threatening legal action against 30 scanlation sites, whose names were not revealed. The organization currently includes Japanese publishers Kodansha, Shogakukan, Shueisha, Square Enix, and the Tuttle-Mori Agency, as well as North American manga publishers Vertical Inc., Viz Media, Tokyopop, and Yen Press.
    MangaTraders is currently down, making ST the new main site to download manga.
    This was posted at MT's forum before:



    It makes us worry that MangaTraders won't be the only site that might get down soon within the next days/ weeks/ months. But also several other scanlator sites.

    MangaHelpers took down it's raw data bank after this happened. Most scanlators already saw it as serious thread which came true today.

    The worst thing about this is, that Google will cooperate with the manga publishers in taking down the community websites.

    I know that ST needs a drastic strategic change to survive. You could transform ST into an online viewer site (mangashark.com if you want) and finance the online viewer by commercial advertising. The forum also could survive that way, serving again as a manga discussion board.

    It is evident that something radical has to be done now to stabilize ST again and keep it alive. It should also be in your interest. You invested a lot of your own money and time into this site. It would be a shame to close it down forever after this summer. The manga community has changed. Most people rather read manga online than downloading.
    The manga publishers are more and more aware of scanlators as the scapegoat for their declining business. We need a safe haven again. We need a place we can rely on. We need a place that can adjust to the new situations the community is facing. And we need a place that won't give in to the pressure we are facing now.

    Thank you for reading. Good luck and I will support you till the end.
    Last edited by morten; 06-08-2010 at 03:49 PM.

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    I am here to help. If you need more mods. I will step up. I am a mod now on Jcafe's movie section. I guess you can go home again.

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    morten, I do not care if I were to face the devil himself. Tazmo = ENEMY #1. This is STOPTAZMO and even though I have not paid attention to anything he has done in years I know we got to stop him.

    On a serious note though, I am not sure if we are really a threat to anyone as we are more of a forum with manga downloads on the side. Sites like MangaTraders/MangaOne/Manga* are all about the manga. I could be wrong though. We've got a few take down notices before from Viz and other companies sent to our host but I just never respond. We are not really a manga scan site so that helps. I will though start looking into things though.

    Last I checked MangaTraders was huge, scares me that they were shutdown.

    We do have an online manga reader, but it sounds like you mentioned mangashark just to split it onto another domain so ST does not close? If there were problems I see no issue with having a few stoptazmo2.com's open along with stoptazmo[1-xxx].com open. We will do what is needed.

    ST traffic has gone down due to no updates for a year. That is why this last week I've been collecting manga and the updated manga list should reflect that. I've also collected URL's of some of the larger subbers and once I am up2date and have finished uploading the manga I downloaded a few weeks ago I will get the latest updates posted within 1-3 days. I used to post updates every 2 days and that was the reason we are so popular. Once updates are back things will improve.

    I was going to take today off, but I started working on server-side scripts and tomorrow I am taking off (8th), and after that I am going to fix our download script and perhaps try to get a quick file upload script integrated so I can have others help with the uploads. I plan on sending a mass email out by Friday night at the latest, and that will help, as long as the updates continue.

    As for the mods, I will have to ask once things are under control. I'm all alone on the core script updates + manga updates which is why I am so slow, but things will improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morten View Post
    Please read this.

    Kane, it's good to hear that you're taking care of ST again.

    But there are several things that have changed the circumstances of the scanalation community in the last few months, and I want to give you a short update of it.

    First, Tazmo isn't the main threat of the scanlator community anymore. There were a lot of events that changed the rules significantly.

    Today, ANN made this announcement:

    U.S., Japanese Publishers Unite Against Manga Scan Sites (Updated)



    MangaTraders is currently down, making ST the new main site to download manga.
    This was posted at MT's forum before:



    It makes us worry that MangaTraders won't be the only site that might get down soon within the next days/ weeks/ months. But also several other scanlator sites.

    MangaHelpers took down it's raw data bank after this happened. Most scanlators already saw it as serious thread which came true today.

    The worst thing about this is, that Google will cooperate with the manga publishers in taking down the community websites.

    I know that ST needs a drastic strategic change to survive. You could transform ST into an online viewer site (mangashark.com if you want) and finance the online viewer by commercial advertising. The forum also could survive that way, serving again as a manga discussion board.

    It is evident that something radical has to be done now to stabilize ST again and keep it alive. It should also be in your interest. You invested a lot of your own money and time into this site. It would be a shame to close it down forever after this summer. The manga community has changed. Most people rather read manga online than downloading.
    The manga publishers are more and more aware of scanlators as the scapegoat for their declining business. We need a safe haven again. We need a place we can rely on. We need a place that can adjust to the new situations the community is facing. And we need a place that won't give in to the pressure we are facing now.

    Thank you for reading. Good luck and I will support you till the end.
    I don't mean to intrude but... how does becoming an online viewer site change anything? Isn't it the same concept still cause you still have scanlated manga hosted on your site...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolpuprocks View Post
    I don't mean to intrude but... how does becoming an online viewer site change anything? Isn't it the same concept still cause you still have scanlated manga hosted on your site...
    I was curious about the same thing. I think the point would be that a temp domain would be created and perhaps include the manga/manga viewer would mean that domain would just be shutdown, but ST would live and we could just continue creating new fake temp domains or something. I might be wrong but either way will depend on if I start running into issues with our hosts. We are small so probably have nothing to worry about for a good amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Shiel View Post
    I was curious about the same thing. I think the point would be that a temp domain would be created and perhaps include the manga/manga viewer would mean that domain would just be shutdown, but ST would live and we could just continue creating new fake temp domains or something. I might be wrong but either way will depend on if I start running into issues with our hosts. We are small so probably have nothing to worry about for a good amount of time.
    Exactly. We have this label for a reason:

    The largest manga and forum community around.
    We should keep a low profile for a while, maybe split manga and forum database and remerge them again when times get quieter again.

    After all, this situation is more serious than ever, even the FBI is included to take us down...

    According to Publishers Weekly, 42 Japanese and US manga publishers have united to form an international group to combat scanlation and they are threatening to take legal actions against 30 websites. The publishers coalition includes Kodansha, Shogakugan, Shueisha, Square Enix, Vertical Inc., VIZ Media, Tokyopop, and Yen Press.

    The spokesperson of the group said they will take injunctive measure if the scanlation sites stop their activities on their own. They have already been reporting scanlator's violations to US Justice Department and FBI. Publishers Weekly named MangaFox and OneManga as the major scanlation websites.

    Kurt Hassler, the publishing director of Yen Press, pointed out the inverse correlation between the increase of the traffic of scanlation websites and the decrease of the manga sales in US.

    The spokesperson said that so-called "scanlation aggregators" have transformed the fan based activities of scanlation into for-profit websites that provide thousands of illegal scans of manga and earn money by memberships and advertising revenues. Hassler said that fan scanlators had withdrawn their translations when the manga was licensed but it's no longer the case with the current "business" scanlators. "We don’t want to have to do this but publishers are now focused on this problem."

 

 
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