i got these From page 7 onwards
that's not true... ringo loves ikki..... she doesn't want ikki to go in the road she prepared for him but she wants them to go on the same road (basically she wants the two of them to rode AT for fun without those many battles) and she dresses up as croissant masked because she felt the team would have been in danger if she doesn't help in.... she has seen the hard work of ikki of creating an AT team so if they would lose their emblem the team would have be disbanded and ikki would have been sad.... about the thing she talked to rika about AT that's because since they were little ringo always knew that ikki is blessed from the "wind".... till that time ringo & co. never talk about AT 'cause of rika since she was scared that ikki=sora
the only thing i understand is that ringo wants ikki as some kind of pet, she wants him to follow the road she has already paved for him... and when things don't go as planned then she has to get into action as croissant masked team member or talk to rika to allow ikki to ride, or cut the wings of those who would lead ikki astray from the path she prepared for him...
PS: the "love" she feels for ikki can't be defined true love... what kind of lover are you if you block any chance of independance and evolution of your soulmate... her "love" is plainly egoistical and can't be realy considered as one...
and ikki doesn't fall in love with ringo cuz she see ringo as a "sister"
about ringo lending sleeping forest emblem... i think here you are thinking too much.... ringo is just trusting ikki... that's all.... about the reaction of mikan it was like "i hope you will get the responsability of this"
Let's not confuse this with an act of love...
The decision of betting the emblem wasn't made without the consent of other team members (both her sisters were present at the time). So it's not like she was doing this against anyone's will.
The fact that simca got him before ringo did, fueled the rivalry for her.
Simca is the first one ikki saw riding AT and he alwais looked up on her. (ringo got pretty jealous of her) and each time simca alwais was a step ahead of her...
So for ringo, in order to recover the lost terrain she had to do something herself that would be flashy (like offering the emblem or helping as croissant mask teammate).
In other words all her "love" demonstration are just the result of her rivalry with simca and not a realy honest feeling...
Even on the 33m jump where she risked her life it was to demonstrate that she ready to do things that simca wouldn't (in order to be more important than her in ikki's heart)
if she wanted to regain terrain as croissant mask she wouldn't wear a mask don't you think? (after all ikki never realized who was behind the mask... he even thinked it was simca)
about the devil jump... well there ringo did that because ikki was losing his confidence and she believes in him....
well ikki after all is the leader..... about the decision of joining genesis kazu and onigiri were reclutants but since ikki is the leader then he accepted his decision buccha since he has more experience he don't trust 100% the leader and thinked when ikki did that decision it was because he wanted to take it easy and be stronger just simply absorbing genesis.... well ikki has talked about his decision to agito:)
I never said that ikki is the embodiement of altruism... he too is quite egoistical taking decisions on his own without asking other people, or doing as he pleases when he see it fit...
well it's not like ikki is favoring genesis over sleeping forest..... first of all genesis should become part of kogarasumaru and the objective of the storm riders is conquer the tower of troemsomething that's why he will end up as a enemy against SF since they are the guardian
The only redeeming thing that I can see Ikki do is take down both SF and Genesis, proving that he never favored one over the other. Otherwise, I can't forgive Simca for all this and can say that she deserves what she got, if not worse.
it's only natural they will end up on fighting each other
and simca never did something bad... well giving the inu emblem to ikki maybe that was a bad thing towards him :P
i mean it's not like simca is gaining any money or anything by using ikki i think it's more likely she wants to teach him about the sky and she was enjoying how ikki was having fun on AT after all you all know that simca loves the "wind"
reading this thing it seems like the only person who cares about ikki in the noyamanos is just ringo.... but that's not true everyone love ikki in their own way and the same ikki to them
Rika is only the mother in the sense that she brings the money home but her presence is very rarely felt in the entire household due to her schedule as a wrestler. Ikki hates Mikan's guts and Ume has her own little world, leaving Ringo the only person within the household that takes care of Ikki.
who goes against the main character is a bad guy :mrgreen:
i basically think Simca is the one trying to manipulate ikki as putting ringo and SF as the bad guys. I mean they look like the bad guys at the moment and from what weve heard about them, but maybe were jsut looking at it from a different point of view....lets all jsut sit back and watch or rather read what happens :P
lol aside that... well sleeping forest are quite the bad guy here... i mean go injuring and killing people it's not like a good guy would do :P
ringo wants ikki to see her more like a girl than a sister that's why during the trip on kyoto she changed her look
i realy can't agree more when you say that Ringo craves for Ikki's attention... We are talking here of attention not love... simply because someone else got into ikki's life (simca) and ruined her little love plans (those in which Ikki in a would be future would have noticed her "pure love" instead of that "fraternal/filial love" you talk about) she has no right whatsoever to ruin ikki's life/love choices.
i'm not sure about this but i don't think ringo did anything big to change ikki's decisions.....
like i said before she wants to share a road of fun with ikki... if i recall correctly there should be pic where she see herself and ikki flying in the sky with a happy smile
Up untill the moment when Ikki commited himself accepting simca's offer to be the leader of genesis (even if drunk and even if he said he would challenge genesis later on) Ringo still had a chance/hope that ikki would get on her same road (not sonia road but sleeping forest's road).
ringo as leader of sleeping forest she has the duty of stopping those who wants to challenge the tower of trophaeum
The problem isn't exactly that she tried to avoid loosing what little control was left on ikki's life... the problem is she was the first one to cross the "no turning back" line when she physicaly attacked Simca.
At that moment everything she made from the beginning (which could have and mostly had been condoned) popped out back depicting her as a rotten character...
Had Simca made something similar as crossing the "no turning back" line then it would have been the same, having all her little schemes (that had been condoned) pop out back depicting her as the rotten character instead of Ringo...
ringo never mentioned sleeping forest affair to ikki....
She crossed the "no turning back line" by attacking simca and by remaining silent all the time without clearly telling that genesis was against sleeping forest...
it's like she separate work from private life
not for defending what ringo did but maybe simca had some AT wheels hidden in her boots? like ringo on the trip on kyoto.... well even if simca had some AT she wouldn't stand a chance since there were more than one member of sleeping forest.....
No, i'm sorry there is no distinction between skullsaders which attaked clueless civilians (in this case people that have nothing to do with AT) and SF which attacked an unarmed AT rider (simca without AT is as defensless as a clueless civilian)
and i think ringo did that because of the law of the trophaeum
As for her tuning skills we'll see what happens to them... but as much as we understood she wont be able to do that (since kururu offered herself to do it even if she didn't like it). If simca would still be able to do it kururu wouldn't have offered herself for the role...
Personaly i don't see how simca would fill in the tuner role in a wheelchair... just imagine the scene where nue's (the thunder road king) tuner accompanies her king in the fight vs gabishi...
well kururu was already chosen as the wind king tuner and it seems like she is the more talented about the tool toul to... otherwise the pledge queen (leader of tool toul to) wouldn't train her to become the wind tuner....
and even if simca wouldn't be injured kururu would have tuned ikki at since it seems like she likes him.....
and where the thunder king vs gabishi i think the tuner accompanied him because he wasn't fully recovered.....
if sora wanted to go back to AT he would already returned with some AT... that phrase was just for some fun since he said that the tuner were some cute highschoolers.....
Sora did say that he wants to get back in AT right before he was attacked when Kanon helped out.
So im sure Sora will figure something out if he really wants to do it.
hey they aren't birds..... anyone can fly if they have some good legs :) (and obviously some AT)
than technically speaking if her wings were broken she could still do AT maybe just not fly. Cuz Rika can still do AT and her wings are GONE, lol, but she made a promise not to put at on again after the accident
and the part where everyone talk about i mean where simca got attacked by SF.... i think the big drawing of ringo where she says "sayonara migratory bird" it's by the author who wants shows another side of ringo as SF leader...
and the attack was due to the law fo the tower of trophaeum even though i don't know what this "law" is....
i think it's more likely to destroy those who dare to challenge the sky or something like that but to our common sense it's likely bullshit :P
sorry for the long post and if there are many errors :smt086