Too Much Fighting?
98 may remember this but is AG focusing too much on fighting rather than the air treks themselves? the early chapters had tricks and all sorts of techniques but now it seems more on unreal fighing (Gabishi vs truck anyone?) rather than evolving skills into AT tricks. Is it because of the level and style of the parts war Kogarasumaru is involved in due to their rank??? I dunno, i mean Kazu did pull off ONE trick in the last fight against Om, but Spitfire had already done it.
Please if this changes in the future dont post spoilers saying "ZOMG NOOO Ikki busts out a 720 Method to 50-50 wallride on XXXXX so WTF are you talking about"... just save it.
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ZOMG NOOO Ikki busts out a 720 Method to 50-50 wallride on XXXXX so WTF are you talking about
<_<. I agree though, I liked it when it was about racing, not fighting.
frankly i dont care i like the manga and i'm not gonna criticize it
they are focusing too much on fighting recently but i really have no complaints for doing so much.
Keep in mind you're talking about why theres such a major clash between AT groups here. Its probably shown the most through Spitfire. (There will be a couple of spoilers here if you're not up to date with the last 10 scanlated chapters.)
He obviously wants the Air Trek scene to return to how it was when he first started, where anyone could do what they wanted and the sky was literally the limit (As was shown by his mini monologue when he freed Om and Gabishi.)
Kilik on the other hand (and keeping in mind I'm only basing this off the scanlated chapters so I could be totally wrong here) feels that people should not be able to reach the sky, thus his reimagining of Sleeping Forest as a group that bars the way to the skies.
The ideals of many of the characters are very different. Ikki tends to get caught up in it a lot because he polarises the differences between Kilik's views and Spitfire's. He's out to have fun with his friends, to accomplish the best he can and enjoy himself, rules be damned. Kilik I imagine isn't big on this because it violates pretty much his entire view of Sleeping Forest being the ones to throw stones down at those who wish to rise up into the sky or however it was he put it.
Spitfire seems to be resigned to the fact that he has to use force to bring AT back to how it was when he first joined and created his team. He brought it up again a couple of chapters ago about how he intends to have this be his last tournament (Gram Scale) and then pass the Flame Road legacy on to Kazu. Thus why you are seeing more fighting.
The Parts War is a system that allows people to do many things. From winning parts to territory to fame and most of all influence with the AT world. Which is why characters like Spitfire involve themselves in fighting when its probably not something that they enjoy as much as ATing with their friends, but they have no choice if they wish to change it to one they feel is better. The fighting is a means to the end.
Last edited by HazelGuy; 02-14-2007 at 11:37 PM.
Yeah, its always been too much about fighting, even in the begining. Sometimes I wonder if this manga should have been called "shit kicking" instead.
i got to admit...i kinda liked how the series started and actually uses tricks like "Spinning Wallride Over Bank", "Upper Soul" and that "Moonride" move during the sabertooth fight... man, all those cool tricks are lost as the series goes on... but if u think about it, it cant be helped...in a king level fight, every move is like a trick and there's no way OG is gonna introduce all those...
oh well, at least they have a story line now unlike how it started...;D
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Yeah indeed now the story is developing while we dont see any of those *explained* tricks.
Its normal for shounen mangas to go that way after all we couldnt have all the time riders who just bounce around town while doing tricks. It wouldnt sell much, after all even though those tricks were cool sooner or later you would be like "man give me a break im tired of that, cant you just make up some story so it wont be just tricks ????".
But even though we dont have explained tricks anymore we have great story especialy in latest chapters, and actualy that story and conspiracy make up for taking out tricks.
But still if you look at that, kogarasumaru is still the same team they fool around and do stuff together but we just dont see it anymore ... Ofcourse fooling around and fighing are 2 diferent things especialy in higher up fights where you just need to literaly kill oponent ^^.
The story was always about how the Ikki would reach the top. Tricks had very little to do with it. In fact, they're only there just to say that the characters are actually using their damned AT's. I don't even remember the AT's being of any importance for tricks after the Sable Tiger fight, and even then it was just as a footnote.
The tricks were always second fiddle to Ikki smashing someone's face in. While wearing hightech skates. Yeah.
I don't really care if they never introduce another trick ever again.
If you think about it, tricks are just the basics of AT. That's why battles early on, like Dash and Hurdle, rely on using them for victories. Teams that have surpassed those stages have essentially mastered or at least learned the basics of using your body to maximize your movement, which is the point of tricks. After that, you pretty much need to get on some kind of road with ridiculous special moves to advance.
Like it was said before, tricks are so commonplace in higher level battles that it'd be way tedious to announce them every time they were performed. For example, if someone did an Upper Soul like Ikki did against Buccha in an A-Class battle it would just be a routine maneuver, and no one would even think twice.