View Poll Results: is ringo a bad person?

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  1. #121
    heavenorhell7 is offline Senior Member Regular
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    I agree with Attila Khan, but to a slightly lesser degree. Honestly, put yourself in Ikki's shoes and then see how you would feel about her actions. Ikki loves his "sisters," so he's nice to them (his joking, playing manner aside), but if I was him I would beat their ass for acting the way they have. When Killik hit Ikki and they just stood there, especially Ringo who appeared to actually feel sorry for Killik when he started to reminisce about his past, I just wanted to punch them; so much for Ringo's "love" of Ikki. If a girl loved you, and some guy punched you, how do you think she would react? Wouldn't she at least, at the very least, say stop, don't? She's a weak-willed, misguided, coniving bitch; that's why she needs a good ass-kicking from Ikki. But I don't think she's evil or bad, just a confused pretender. I hope she wakes up ... or not; Kururu is the better female lead for Ikki now, I think.

    I can't help but think about the Dave Chapel show with Wayne Brady as the guest star: "Does Wayne Brady gotta slap a bitch?" or better yet, "Does Ikki gotta slap a bitch?"

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    Konik is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    heavenorhell, If you were hit in front of a girl you like, would you wait for her to come and help you? :P

    Deuce, I don't read raws either. I don't remember where I read about Simica...

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    heavenorhell7 is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Hell yea I would! But I love to test girls that way, to see what they're made of; if getting hit illicits no reaction what-so-ever from her, I would be very, very disappointed. I'd probably believe she doesn't care for me, so why waste my time with her. You see, I like to play the cool guy who takes the hit, shrugs it off, then says to the girl, if she reacts protectively, "Thanks babe, but back-off, his ass is mine!"

    On a side note, though, I don't think Ikki thinks of Ringo as a potential lover but more of a sister or family member. That makes the situation even worse, if family doesn't stand up for you, who will? What surprised me was Ringo's older sister (Miki, Maki, whatever?), she somewhat stood up for Ikki asking, or implying, Killik stop beating and picking on such a weak kid, while Ringo just stood there quietly trying to act cool and bad ass, especially in 0 gravity.
    Last edited by heavenorhell7; 07-05-2007 at 06:02 AM.

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    I don't think Ringo is bad at all I am starting to think her and her sisters have a duty to be part of SF and to protect the sky regaila. That starts to get you wondering if Kilik is not the only one pulling the strings, from what I can remember didn't Ringo say something about the T tower laws? If so I do not think that Kilik was the one who made the laws but someone else who is pulling the strings behind him. And because Ringo is a Gravity Child and is in a different generation than simca and others that her and her sisters have to protect it or something. (lol i can't really explain it that well)

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    Attila Khan is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Well no one can really go to far to refute what is being said as this thread cannot have spoilers in it, but Ringo has had opportunity after opportunity to remove herself from the forest and join Ikki's side. If she really is so in love with him, then she is some perverse sadist and belongs in Gantz. She has more than once brought herself into direct conflict with Ikki, the Simca attack not withstanding.

    Bottom line Ringo is more about the tower and tradition, and her self impressed duty to Kilik and SF than Ikki. If even Rika can believe in the young king, and support him, then this bitch needs to learn the ropes or quit the game. Face it people, Ringo isn't changing as a person and becoming better, she is becoming worse. While Simca has been changed by Ikki like she was a damn Naruto filler character. Simca and Kururu have truly come to Ikki's thinking and become a true believers in his sky. A sky that is free, and even in it's freedom is different than Sora's. Kilik has Ringo believing his way and the more she is with Ikki the more she shows that he is making her like Kilik. She even perverted what he said about everyone flying in the sky, to a world with no regalia that she was able to watch over. Face it she is bad and needs to be destroyed. Hopefully by Ikki at Gram Scale. And then we will have peace.(credit: the Emperor)
    Last edited by Attila Khan; 07-08-2007 at 07:17 PM.


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    Please don't bother. Simple rule: If it wasn't in the manga, it doesn't count.

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    spaz4tw is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    How do you know that she really does not want to be in SF though? For all we know she could be forced to be in it by someone who is pulling the strings on some of these gravity children. Its almost as if OG is making SF to be the bad guys in this, well there are some bad guys in this the water and thorn king and queen both look like bad people but what about the three sisters? You can tell right away that they are not bad people they do not go around and kill people unlike those two and Kilik. Thats why it kinda seems like Ringo is being commanded by someone else and thats why she has not gone over to Ikkis side yet. It just does not make sense for half to be good and the other bad...

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    Attila Khan is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    And who did Om kill? Gabashi is a looney tunes, and I agree Ringo isn't there yet. But her willingness to promulgate the Simca attack and personally be involved is a sign of jealousy and that she is on the path to a more true evil like him though, under the "guise" of protecting people.. And I wish I could go farther to reply but I'm limited to non-spoilage. Ringo has thus far been in SF by choice, she hasn't been shown to be anymore bound to SF than Rika. And you can't say Rika couldn't have been older than Spitfire or Sora so she made the choice to leave SF. And Ringo could make the same choice too.

    But she won't, and it's because she is a behind the scenes, information hiding, Kilik loving, trickster. And if she was so in love with our hero, then she would have at least tried to give him the truth so he could make the decision of what to do in the A-T world. But she didn't because she wanted to do what Simca was blatantly doing. Simca was trying to make Ikki the ultimate weapon of Genes1s and help her destroy Sleeping Forest. And Ikki was very understanding of it. Ikki made it quite clear he knew what she was doing, and was going to use Genes1s to fit Kogarasumaru's ends and goals then lead them against Genes1s and her. But Ringo seems to want Ikki to serve her ends in the forest and help her destroy regalia before some random people who don't exist yet go to far with them. It's stupid and a perverted version of Ikki's free sky.
    Last edited by Attila Khan; 07-08-2007 at 08:17 PM.


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    Om might not have killed anyone but you can tell right way that she is evil look at her eyes and her smile it smells of evil. Even if Ringo attacked Simca she still went easy on her like she said, shes not blood thirsty or anything like that. I don't believe that she is on the path of evil she has protected Ikki and his friends since the beginning so thats prof that she is not evil, just because some of the people from SF are does not mean she is a stone cold killer. As of right now the yes she has been in SF by choice but the difference with her and Rika is that there is a different leader and that she is a Gravity Child. I just don't see her as a bad person she does not look like one at all or rarely acts like one.

    How can she give Ikki the truth when there were laws of the T tower put into place? Where did you get the idea that Ringo wants Ikki to destroy the Regailas? Even if they did destroy them they can always be rebuilt once again its a never ending cycle. But I still think that there is someone else pulling the strings besides Kilik and you know who.

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    Attila Khan is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Did you miss where she talked of the world of no regalias? And because Om looks evil she's a killer yet you have no evidence of such, just her love of candy that has taken out most of her teeth. I'd say my girl Benkei looks pretty dang intimidating in battle but she isn't evil. And again the problem isn't whether Ringo went easy on her it's that she could have sent weaker members who could have accomplished the same end result yet went herself. And as I have said over and over in my posts Ringo has been using Ikki in an underhanded fashion since the beginning. Her bringing them along serves her ends of having the Wind King under her and SF's thumb. And where is your proof that RIngo was required to be a part of SF as a gravity Child? Simca isn't in SF and she is clearly a gravkid. Ringo made the choice to join SF and serve as the in battle leader, just as Rika made the choice to join and later to leave after the crippling of Sora.

    Now as to the rules, there was a simple solution for her the moment she knew Ikki wanted to use A-T's and become a storm rider. And that is a scaled down version of the Simca treatment. Simca wanted Ikki so much and so deeply, that she exposed her plans and "gave" him Genes1s. Ringo had more opportunities than Simca or anyone to bring Ikki and Kogarasumaru into the fold as a subgroup of Sleeping Forest. She had the possibility and didn't.

    I will stop here unless someone wants to bring things away from the edge that is the raws, because otherwise I can't drop anymore truth than I already have.


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