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    amxed is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    She has a good nature but kilik is the one who's behind this like everyone's been saying...and ringo did say during the fight with ikki she hates her road and all that. She doesn't like fighting...she seeks for peace, but still sleeping forest's ways doesn't allow her to do that, since people like ikki will keep on flying unless someone really crushes him...which was the exact way with sora. As for other sleeping forest members...their methods(face ripping, attacking with bubbles, permenently putting a person in a wheelchair) don't count for Ringo to be bad because it's their method, not ringo. And it's already said in the scanlation that Ringo attacked Simca because Simca is not a capable rider and end up dying or something in the "coming war."

    Personally I think Sleeping Forest has some issues.

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    Not permamently but for 6 months.
    And lets wait for this flashback to continue ok maybe we will get more background info so we will be able to tell who is the evil one or is it just diferent perspective of seeing things.

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    42 people voted: I like Kazu ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila Khan View Post
    She doesn't want to destroy Ikki, but she and her sisters save Rika, strive to destroy what Ikki represents. Access to all. She is not only a Hypocrite, she is a time faced, double dealing, lying cad. Why you ask? She claims to love Ikki yet she not only helps get him killed, but by not telling him the situation has gotten him in a position were she is going to get to help kill him(Not a spoiler, just my theory) Even if he gets out of the tower, Kilik will like want to stop him. Not to mention she is a just straight up liar, either she believes that none shall gain the regalia or she believes in that Ikki is right, (thus making Genesis right) that the SR belongs to whoever can get them. And I don't buy her "Well if the regalia were destroyed then everyone would be able to fly with the fighting" That is a human nature thing and her pious position(like Rika before her) has done nothing but get people in line to die(Ikki) or crippled(Simca and Sora). She is the reason this has been an ambush and that TTT has betrayed their own rules. It's her fault and I hope Benkei and Kururu crush her face in with the panther staff and that huge wrench.

    Sorry I just needed to vent over her. I know I usually have very eloquent posts that have the information and theory, and try and stay objective, but she has been getting in my craw(Especially in the raws) and I needed to just drop some passionate anger on her. I will now return to my usual style.
    so far, I can't see anything wrong with SF's goal, and I can't see any thing wrong with Ikki's either. SF and Genesis/Ikki just have different ways of viewing things. Some bad methods were used ,though.
    SIMAC ISN'T CRIPPLED. about Sora, he and Kilik were trying to really beat each other, if not kill each other. I not a supporter of what Kilik did, but one really can't complain much aboutbeen crippled by the person he was trying to kill.
    About Ringo was not letting ikki know he is in danger. it is a fact. Although I doubt that she knows everything that is going on in SF.

    I can't see why you think it is Ringo's fault Ine did what she did. I mean, Ine is old enough and smart enough to decide what she wants to do.

    Maybe it is still too early to discuss about it. There is still too many things remine unexplained or unknown.
    Last edited by xlene; 06-27-2007 at 07:09 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaturas View Post
    Not permamently but for 6 months.
    And lets wait for this flashback to continue ok maybe we will get more background info so we will be able to tell who is the evil one or is it just diferent perspective of seeing things.
    I meant sora.

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    Hard to say why Ringo did that bad thing! But I know she love Ikki so much! However I prefer Ikki and Simca than anyone else!
    Oh! By the way, does anyone think that Ikki will take revenge with Mika ?
    In my mind, I think that Ringo will suffer after the battle end, the relationship between her and Ikki may be never like it was again! I feel so sad!

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    I still say she's evil. At best she could have gone to Kilik and tried to recruit Ikki into Sleeping Forest and avoided this whole problem. I bet even in his mind Kilik would have seen the benefit to a Wings road member joining the ranks. And he could have kept him down enough to later force his leaving and the creation of Kogarasumaru. In the end though, I think Ringo is a bad person and needs a severe beating to let her know how she's treated Ikki is worse than Rika, Sora, and Simca combined. She has denied his very existence as a future King to suit her ends, kept vital information that could have saved his life from him, lead him into this trap of a meeting with Kilik, withheld information about her eye crosses, helped push him out of the house, help cripple(though not permanently) Simca, and left him awaiting slaughter on more than one occasion. Even taking into account the Swimsuit mask moments, with the current stuff, that's a 2 to 7 ratio of good stuff to bad. She's bad, and people's love of the storybook fight and ending for the 2 of them is blinding them from the truth. I can't wait until Ikki has to shred her thorns to pieces and then gives Kururu the long kiss goodnight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila Khan View Post
    I still say she's evil. At best she could have gone to Kilik and tried to recruit Ikki into Sleeping Forest and avoided this whole problem. I bet even in his mind Kilik would have seen the benefit to a Wings road member joining the ranks. And he could have kept him down enough to later force his leaving and the creation of Kogarasumaru. In the end though, I think Ringo is a bad person and needs a severe beating to let her know how she's treated Ikki is worse than Rika, Sora, and Simca combined. She has denied his very existence as a future King to suit her ends, kept vital information that could have saved his life from him, lead him into this trap of a meeting with Kilik, withheld information about her eye crosses, helped push him out of the house, help cripple(though not permanently) Simca, and left him awaiting slaughter on more than one occasion. Even taking into account the Swimsuit mask moments, with the current stuff, that's a 2 to 7 ratio of good stuff to bad. She's bad, and people's love of the storybook fight and ending for the 2 of them is blinding them from the truth. I can't wait until Ikki has to shred her thorns to pieces and then gives Kururu the long kiss goodnight.
    i can understand ikki, i would let ringo beat me too. I would also let simca beat me too. Their hawtness makes up for everything....hehe.

    though in all honesty, i believe ringo is misunderstood and in fact a very good person. What they are doing now is just showing ikki the ins and outs of SF, etc.

    and from the looks of it now, Sora is the bad guy!!!! ITS CRAZY I TELL YOU!!!!


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    I also think that Ringo isn't a bad person.

    Simica was injured only to get her out of the main battles, which are supposed to be very blody, and Simica never was a fighter. She was in TTT, as Sora's tuner. She is Kilik's sister. I don't think that Kilik would allow anybody injure Simica as much as Sora was injured.

    As for being the leader of SF, she admited, that she is the leader, because of her abilities. I think that all the time in the tower, all of the SF members, were at strong influence of Kilik. In earlier episodes, Om, and Gabishi were afraid only what will Kilik do to them for failing. In my opinion all the SF members do what Kilik wants, even Ringo. Whenever she was the normal Ringo, she wanted to help Ikki, with all her heart.

    I still think that in the end Ringo will win in the love square.

    And Deuce, don't spoil some things for others. Some people don't know what is happening in the not translated chapters...

  10. #120
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    -_-;;

    i dont read the RAWs.....you can pretty much assume that the person who stole the bagram was sora or someone who worked for sora cuz out of no where sora comes into play from the flashbacks. So there's got to be some a reason for it. .....so it's pretty much implied.

    also i dont ever recall seeing/reading that simca was sora's tuner....


 

 
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